SVT-40 vs Mosin Nagant Recoil/Which to purchase?

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I was just wondering if anyone has both (or fired both) of these big boys. I'm sure the gas operated SVT-40 would have less felt recoil than the bolt action Mosin Nagant. I don't think either has extreme recoil, just wondering though.

I've only fired an SKS and CZ858 so I was thinking about getting into a large caliber without breaking the bank. I like Red Rifles as well. So what do you guys think between the two? I've heard that the iron sights are quite crude on the Mosin.

The SKS and 858 seem to dominate the Red Rifle page, I'm sure for a reason, just wondering about these two that are not mentioned that often.

Any Prohib collectors have the Mosin, SVT-40, SKS, AK47 and AK74 for the full compliment of Russian military rifles (I'm assuming there aren't more)? Thanks.
 
AK 47...AK74 are prohib....but not the mosin nor the SVT
I have both the Mosin91 and the SVT40 and yes they kick...but its not that bad....compared to a Mauser K98 or a Steyer M95....the Mosin and the SVT 40 are pussycats inre recoil due to the longer length of the barrel
 
Both kick but its not bad at all. Personally I like the Mosin more...but both are good. With a bolt action (the Mosin) the pricer ammo will last longer and it shoots more accurate...all for less then half the price!!! You can also get a M44 for a bit more money then a Mosin which is the carbine version of one, also cool!!!

UTAF
 
I own an SVT40 and have shot a friend's Mosin a fair bit and from my experience, I would say that I found the SVT-40 softer shooting, quicker to re-acquire sight picture and place accurate follow on shots.

The Mosin, while a beautiful rifle, had a marginally stouter recoil and I found the bolt action, with my limited experience in such matters, a crumbersome affair to manipulate quickly. Moreover, the Mosin was a little unweidly for my frame whereas the SVT was a little more 'handier'.

Given the modest prices that they command, perhaps get both and do justice to a full crate of 7.62x54R in true soviet fashion and see if you have a preference especially with regards to fit ?

Perhaps consider the M44 carbine version of the Mosin as well. I don't have any personal experience shooting one except handling it at the range, but I am led to believe, based on my observation, that it would be a much handier package while retaining the same caliber.

Perhaps the reason why these rifles are not mentioned often is because ex-military surplus have a limited appeal when compared to "cooler" looking assault type semi-automatics. I do not feel that they are inferior in any way for the purposes of recreational shooting, but in fact, given the reasonable cost of surplus ammo, quite an inexpensive way to introducte yourself to the sport.

Do update us on your final decision!
 
The SVT40 is a fun rifle to play with - plenty of bark and power without all that much bite - the muzzle break really helps with it. You'll chew through ammo quick with it, though. Known to be quite accurate, too.

The Mosin's straight bolt does take some getting used to, tru enough - when I got the hang of it though, I could cycle-aim-fire accurately, burning through 5 rounds, in about 6 seconds. Recoil is a bit stiffer than the SVT, and especially notable with the carbine versions, but no worse than your average .308, in my opinion.

I honestly love both and would take one of each.
 
On the Chuck Hawks recoil table, the 7.62x54 seems to be about double compared to the recoil of 7.62x39. Sound accurate? Sounds manageable. 1st# is weight of rifle, 2nd (bold) is Recoil in Energy (ft/lbs), 3rd Recoil Velocity (f/s)

7.62x39 Soviet (125 at 2350) 7.0 6.9 8.0
7.62x54R Russian (150 at 2800) 9.0 13.1 9.7
7.62x54R Russian (174 at 2600) 9.0 15.0 10.4

Bolt action makes it more accurate somehow? How are each for scoping? I've heard that the iron sights on the Mosin are bad.

.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5 15.8 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5 18.1 12.5
.308 Win. (180 at 2610) 8.0 17.5 11.9

For comparison.
 
I just fired two of my SVTs today. Recoil is only a little more than an SKS - easy to handle. Weight is about the same too. Never fired a Mosin, I'm left handed and find bolt actions akward. The SVT is tougher to clean than an KS, but fairly similar overall. Fun to shoot, fun to own.
 
I have and shoot both SVT40 and Mosin 91/30 as well as M44 carbine. I've never considered the recoil to be bad at all unless you compare to something like a .22 long rifle. I'm not a big guy, actually quite slim and weigh 175 pounds on a really wet day with my boots on. I don't have a problem shooting a hundred rounds out of any of those rifles. Two hundred rounds, I'm starting to get tender and bruise a bit. I don't consider any of the above rifles to be heavy or be concerned with recoil. Medium recoil at most.
 
I have both, and the SVT has a bit less recoil due to the semi auto action. I'd like to shoot it more often, except that there is quite a bit more diassembly and cleaning involved (as opposed to an SKS), and especially since it goes through the rounds a LOT faster than my Mosins. (7.62x54R isn't the cheapest ammo around).
 
I dont find much difference between my SVT and my various Mosin. Despite his light weight, the SVT is a gentle rifle to shoot,well balanced but the muzzle brake ,while effective, is so loud, hearing protection is a must(like any shooting ) Mosin is a bit heavier and recoil is very soft, but i never tried a M44, only the rifle versions.

Jocelyn
 
My mosin def has a bit more felt recoil. But still not bad, but you will feel that steel buttplate after 20 or 40 rounds.

esp with 182 heavy ball! lol
 
svt1940 said:
i dont find much difference between my svt and my various mosin. Despite his light weight, the svt is a gentle rifle to shoot,well balanced but the muzzle brake ,while effective, is so loud, hearing protection is a must(like any shooting ) mosin is a bit heavier and recoil is very soft, but i never tried a m44, only the rifle versions.

Jocelyn
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They don't make recoil pads for these? Some say the recoil is close, others say the SVT is much tamer. What kind of shape do each usually come in? Factory refurbished? When I took apart my Tula SKS refurb for the first time I was surprised to find that every single part looked brand new, except for a few flaws on the wood stock. Then again, it was my first rifle that I've owned.

Which is easier to dissassemble and clean? I'm assuming there is clean/corrosive ammo choices too or is it not as readily available as 7.62x39? Thanks for the info so far.
 
st1264 said:
On the Chuck Hawks recoil table, the 7.62x54 seems to be about double compared to the recoil of 7.62x39. Sound accurate? Sounds manageable. 1st# is weight of rifle, 2nd (bold) is Recoil in Energy (ft/lbs), 3rd Recoil Velocity (f/s)

7.62x39 Soviet (125 at 2350) 7.0 6.9 8.0
7.62x54R Russian (150 at 2800) 9.0 13.1 9.7
7.62x54R Russian (174 at 2600) 9.0 15.0 10.4

Bolt action makes it more accurate somehow? How are each for scoping? I've heard that the iron sights on the Mosin are bad.

.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5 15.8 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5 18.1 12.5
.308 Win. (180 at 2610) 8.0 17.5 11.9

For comparison.
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They are kinda sucky but they work...

Bolt guns ARE more accurate then a semi...I thought that was commonly know? If a semi was JUST as accurate...why do people still buy bolts? LOL
 
st1264 said:
They don't make recoil pads for these? Some say the recoil is close, others say the SVT is much tamer. What kind of shape do each usually come in? Factory refurbished? When I took apart my Tula SKS refurb for the first time I was surprised to find that every single part looked brand new, except for a few flaws on the wood stock. Then again, it was my first rifle that I've owned.

Which is easier to dissassemble and clean? I'm assuming there is clean/corrosive ammo choices too or is it not as readily available as 7.62x39? Thanks for the info so far.
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The easiest to clean/take apart go in this order...Mosin, SKS, SVT. You can buy MFS ammo...steel cased, German made but its about x2 the cost of surplus BUT its non-corrosive.
 
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