SVT-40 VS Norinco M14

czechsanchez said:
sure the svt-40 isn't as customizable, but I'm sure if you duracoated the stock and parkerized the metal you'd become a big hit on some of the big american forums
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Some of the reactions on the milsurp forums make me WANT to bubba a rifle just for the reaction...
 
Define:Better

tootall said:
Define "better"
Until you give us a bit of a hint as to what you hope to do with it, all you are getting is what is good for someone else.

I like to study the technology and method of operation, so I bought both, and many other semi autos. But if I tell you "Get both!", that's not really helpful to you at this point.
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for me in this circumstance, Better means-which is more accurate out to which distance, ie-can you shoot accurately out to 1200 yards and which one does it better. and which one is easier to break down and clean, I guess this is what better means to me.

Bigmoe
 
I own an SVT-40 and it is alright. I have an M14 on order and am excited to get it. I have shot both enough times. I think that most of what has been said is true. However, I think that the price differnece has been downplayed a bit. While it is true that there is some cheaper .308 ammo available, it is not always readily available in the store. In my experience I have always been able to get SVT40 ammo for cheap locally thus far for 50 cents a round.. One negative of the SVT40 that has not yet been mentioned is that is has GARBAGE sights. Very similar, if not identical, to SKS and CZ858 sights. Like I said, garbage. Also, the optics options are pretty limited on the SVT40. I am not at all unhappy with my SVT40, but if I had to start over and could only choose one rifle, I think I would opt for the M14.

Happy shooting, Nick
 
I own an SVT-40 and it is alright. I have an M14 on order and am excited to get it. I have shot both enough times. I think that most of what has been said is true. However, I think that the price differnece has been downplayed a bit. While it is true that there is some cheaper .308 ammo available, it is not always readily available in the store. In my experience I have always been able to get SVT40 ammo for cheap locally thus far for 50 cents a round.. One negative of the SVT40 that has not yet been mentioned is that is has GARBAGE sights. Very similar, if not identical, to SKS and CZ858 sights. Like I said, garbage. Also, the optics options are pretty limited on the SVT40. I am not at all unhappy with my SVT40, but if I had to start over and could only choose one rifle, I think I would opt for the M14.

Happy shooting, Nick
 
bigmoe said:
for me in this circumstance, Better means-which is more accurate out to which distance, ie-can you shoot accurately out to 1200 yards and which one does it better. and which one is easier to break down and clean, I guess this is what better means to me.

Bigmoe
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If you are really serious about wanting to shoot out to 1200 yards, then a bolter and a large scope would be a far better choice.
 
SVT 40's are milsurp/collectors guns and not being made anymore. Parts are difficult to get and render modifying useless.
M14's are still being made and have the ability to modify to whatever ones wallet says so.

Neither is suitable for 1200 yds. Consider a .338 Lapua Magnum bolt action for that.
 
I owned a Norinco M-14 and I actually own a SVT-40 PU sniper

The SVT-40 as less felt recoil because of the compensator but it's louder. It's really fun and comfortable to shoot, all my friends that tried it, want one. The iron sights are not the best but it's shootable. You can easily remove the mount and put it back without loosing your zero, it's fun if you decide to shoot scoped or not. The gun is long but point very well. The sniper version is between 800$ and 1000$ with mount and PU scope and you can only mount it on a SVT-40 "sniper" with the special notch on the receiver and you can only mount this configuration (repro mount and PU scope). The normal version of the SVT-40 is about 350$. Most, if not all sellers don't keep spare parts and you need a special tool for adjusting the front sights.

I found the parkerized finish on the M-14 kinda bad and easy to scratch. Since Norinco have almost no quality control you may end up with one that have bad fits which mean it will not operate smoothly as it should. The barrel is chrome lined meaning longer barrel life. You cannot install/remove the mount as easy as the SVT-40 but you can install any scope or mount you want. Large amount of after market stock, parts and accessories, the SVT-40 don't have this versatility. The cleaning kit is more complete making the cleaning a bit easier. At 450$, it's a fraction of the price of the original Springfield (2000$ without taxes).
 
M14 platform all the way.

- easy to get parts and accessories. (magazines, scope mounts, stocks, USGI bits and pieces, bla bla bla)
- easy to get reloading components (.308 vs .311 bullets, especially in a variety of sizes)
- easy to get advice (CGN?)

I think an SVT would make a great plinker, but I'd stock up on the cheap ammo BIG TIME. Did I mention how easy it is to get reloadable .308 brass, versus 7.62x54R?

KNOW THIS, you'll want to get into reloading, if you intend to shoot your new rifle a lot. And there's more info out there for what makes the M14 type platform work at it's best.

Did I mention, M14 platform all the way? Thought I did. :dancingbanana:
 
Interesting match up.
They are both cool rifles that are good shooters. I would buy the M14 first and then buy an SVT40 too. They are both cheap to buy, what the hell.
 
SVT-40 all the way.
The SVT-40 is so awesome that Germans would frequently take them from dead Russians and use them themselves. That there says something.

Also, you won't find any M-14's that killed Nazis.
 
tootall said:
If you are really serious about wanting to shoot out to 1200 yards, then a bolter and a large scope would be a far better choice.
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TooTall, what you say makes a lot of sense, I love both the SVT-40 and the M-14 but I think I am leaning towards a remington model 700 sps Tactical or the sps Varment.

for the very reasons you stated, I would put a good scope on it and try my best, I did qualify marksmen back in the late nineties with an FAL C1, I would really love to test myself with the remington plateform and see just how proficient I can come, thanks for your help.
 
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