SVT-40 with naval stock?

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I am looking for one. I passed on a nice example at Wholesale, but its gone now.
Anyone seen any at their local stores?
And this may be a dumb question but.....why is the strap in the stock and not the swivel on the naval versions?
 
I'm just guessing that it was easier, and cheaper to make the hole for the strap rather than use a swivel. Leather was more at hand at the time as well.
 
ricohman said:
why is the strap in the stock and not the swivel on the naval versions?
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Such stock mistakenly considered as naval. It's just late stock type, used in mass production since 1944 )
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-feb-19th***?p=9046598&viewfull=1#post9046598
Specifications were changed in 1944, so all stock produced before 1944 (and maybe some 1944 stocks, because I don't know exact date when changes were occurred) were produced with swivel at the bottom.
 
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Just picked up a very nice '43 Tula/Mednogorsk with a "naval" stock from SFRC, maybe send in a request with an offer of handpicking fee and see if they can sort you out?
 
Interesting to hear this is not a "naval" stock. I was watching a documentary that showed soviet naval infantry, and they had these stocks. Very interesting.
 
ricohman said:
Interesting to hear this is not a "naval" stock. I was watching a documentary that showed soviet naval infantry, and they had these stocks. Very interesting.
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I always wonder where these "facts" come from. ;) I have seen a lot of differences between what is claimed and what appears to be. Doubt we'll ever get to see the production record of the Russians and no doubt they are written in a language, never mind an alphabet, few of us could read.

Grizz
 
I can't say in my experience I agree with Ratnik's findings. "Naval" stocks are few and far between in the hundred or so SVT's I've picked through. The normal AVT stock, however, is quite common. That's just my findings though.

Silverfox, all I've got is a horrible iPhone camera. If you're still interested in seeing some pictures, let me know and I'll take some.
 
ricohman said:
Interesting to hear this is not a "naval" stock. I was watching a documentary that showed soviet naval infantry, and they had these stocks. Very interesting.
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Can you post this photos here?
Closer to to end off war there were not to many SVT's used by army, many of them were already put to storage, and those that were used, were used by the most experienced units.
Grizzly Adams said:
I always wonder where these "facts" come from. ;) I have seen a lot of differences between what is claimed and what appears to be. Doubt we'll ever get to see the production record of the Russians and no doubt they are written in a language, never mind an alphabet, few of us could read.

Grizz
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Soon one Russian researcher will publish a book related to SVT's, but it will be in Russian

Don Kael said:
I can't say in my experience I agree with Ratnik's findings. "Naval" stocks are few and far between in the hundred or so SVT's I've picked through. The normal AVT stock, however, is quite common. That's just my findings though.

Silverfox, all I've got is a horrible iPhone camera. If you're still interested in seeing some pictures, let me know and I'll take some.
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Grizz, it's documented fact. Specifications were changed it 1944,and a dated document exists. Quantity of "naval" stocks is not very high, because production quantity in 1944 and 1945 is low.
You will not find "naval" stock dated earlier than 1944. All of them will be 1944, 1945 dated or undated (refurbs), with only one exception, see below.
But on my personal experience, in Ukraine they are quite common
I also mention some "naval" stocks produced during short period in Podolsk in 1941. As all other Podolsk stocks, they were marked with oval with arrow from the right side. But quantity was very low
Currently I dont have picture of such stock, but here is patriotic poster printed in 1941

Alex

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ricohman said:
Interesting to hear this is not a "naval" stock. I was watching a documentary that showed soviet naval infantry, and they had these stocks. Very interesting.
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Naval infantry was trained better then regular infantry (read "lucky blokes got at least some training, unlike most of regular infantry"). Thus SVTs, in most cases despised by regular infantry men who got used to Mosin's "pick up from the dirt and sand and it still will shoot, don't clean it and it still will shoot", were issued to naval infantry. Thus we have significant amount of SVT pictured with naval infantry men and at that period of war they had version 1944 stocks. That's my thinking.
 
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