svt40 vs m14 as sniper?

The most important thing about the SVT-40 vs the M-14 is that the M-14 is a prohibited firearm while the SVT-40 is not. A Norinco M305 is not an M-14.
Where do ya'll get the idea the 7.62 x 54R is a bigger "shell"? It used a slightly larger diameter bullet, but at slightly lower velocities in milsurp ammo.
 
The most important thing about the SVT-40 vs the M-14 is that the M-14 is a prohibited firearm while the SVT-40 is not. A Norinco M305 is not an M-14.
Where do ya'll get the idea the 7.62 x 54R is a bigger "shell"? It used a slightly larger diameter bullet, but at slightly lower velocities in milsurp ammo.

I was wondering how long it would take sunray to pop in with some factually challenged BS.
 
Gentlemen;
Thank you for all the replies so far. Tons of helpful info. I'm left with 4 questions:
1. Is the receiver built soundly enough for modification?.
2. Would it be worthwhile re-barreling ie; custom barrels
3.larger shell=greater distance, yes.
Svt 40 is currently cheapest big bore milsurp ( large shell), semi-auto, available. I love to get dirty and am looking to find a project that has the potential for glory.
Is this rifle the platform.
Thanks in advance
 
The most important thing about the SVT-40 vs the M-14 is that the M-14 is a prohibited firearm while the SVT-40 is not. A Norinco M305 is not an M-14.
Where do ya'll get the idea the 7.62 x 54R is a bigger "shell"? It used a slightly larger diameter bullet, but at slightly lower velocities in milsurp ammo.

Ya except there are semi auto only variants named M14. Yes there is Norinco M305 and Polytech M14S along with Federal ordnance versions for California. In this case the general name M14 isn't really a mistake.

Actually 7.62x54r does have a bit more case capacity than 7.62x51. So theoretically if reloading you could push more velocity out of it if using the same powder. Also there are non surplus ammo available.
 
I only skimmed through this thread, so i may be answering something that has already been answered.
For a scope on an svt, you can either find one with rails already cut into the side and get a repro mount(which you need to cut a notch for), or an aftermarket mount like a B square or addley precision, or you'd have to drill/tap into the side.
As for accurising, like other said, bedding would probably help, but i have also heard that removing the cleaning rod actually does wonderings for SVT accuracy, that it messes with the barrel harmonics when it is in place.

As for SVT vs M14. I would say hands down the M14 is going to be more accurate, but i find i prefer the SVT. I like the milsurp stuff, the smell of cosmoline as the barrel heats up and the whole history of the rifles.
If ultimate accuracy is your goal, M14 all the way, but it can get dangerously pricey to add on every accessory you want/need/see, if you just want a fun rifle with decent enough accuracy at 100m, then my vote is for svt.
 
I have a SVT, "M14", and a Mosin sniper. Not much I can say that hasn't been said, so i'll keep it short: Mosin Sniper is going to be the cheapest route as it is a complete package. M14 will be more expensive but the option to put higher power optics on it will make it more accurate at long distance. SVT will require a lot of custom work. I'd suggest just using the SVT with iron sights: its like a super sks. The m14 has been used as a designated marksmans rifle for the last 50+ years. The Soviets gave up trying to make the SVT a sniper rifle after 2 years.

As for 7.62x51mm vs 7.62x54mmR:
The .308 has a muzzle velocity of 865m/s (150gr)
the x51mm has a muzzle velocity of 833m/s (147gr)
the x54mmR has a muzzle velocity of 860m/s (150gr)
Data taken from Wikipedia.

It's really not that big of a difference.
 
... The Soviets gave up trying to make the SVT a sniper rifle after 2 years ...

The downfall of the SVT as a Sniper had more to do with economics and production pressures. The Mosin was very much a known quantity for a sniper platform, they'd worked out all the bugs years before the war even started. And the selection process for "sniper" versions for both rifles was the same - as they came off the line and were measured for tolerances and test fired, ones that met quality and accuracy criteria for a sniper variant were set aside for conversion.

SVT production, even at its height, never even approached a small fraction of the number of number of Mosins being produced. Keeping to a known quantity and standardization during war production is a bit of a no brainer.

Not saying that the SVT is the be all to end all, but there was potential there that the Soviets just didn't have the time or resources to explore given the pressure they were under to put boomsticks in as many hands as possible as quickly as possible - raw economics favoured the Mosin.

And the SVT didn't just disappear after the war... While the SVD is an almost entirely original design, it draws much design philosophy from the SVT... Short stroke gas piston semi auto with a ten round detachable box magazine, muzzle brake to control recoil for faster follow up shots...

I think the potential of the SVT falls into the "What if..." category. What if they'd had the time and resources to refine the concept. What if they didn't already have such a well known quantity in the Mosin. What if production pressures were low enough that they could have ensured each was properly bedded in the stock (the problems with the stock are among the key complaints for achieving decent accuracy with the SVT-40)... What if Stalin hadn't purged the army of so many high quality professional officers before hand and kept training levels of the army as a whole at a level where the average grunt would have had the skills to properly maintain the rifle (the Wehrmacht grunts put it to better use than the Soviets ever did)...

Not picking a fight, in any way. I just find it to be one of those interesting questions of history. Military history is littered with squandered opportunities due to short sightedness or economics. "The best platform will win out..." is actually very seldom the case in military procurement. Usually what wins is "the best platform we can afford that gets the job done."

For the Soviets in WWII, that meant the Mosin won. It was vastly cheaper and easier to produce, and put it in enough hands, and it could get the job done. That doesn't mean it was the best possible platform the Soviets had available to them at the time.
 
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