Swedish M38 Question? ALSO LEE ENFIELD MARKINGS SOMEONE?

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I just bought a nice 42 Swed M38 in 6.5x55 from a fellow CGN. Anyhow what goes on the end of the muzzle? It's threaded, is that for a stock, issued muzzle flash of some sort? And if so does anyone know where one can be had. The barrel looks kinda necked like that.:(

Here are some pics of the new toys. The threads got cut out of the first pic. You can just make them out in the second. Any how at least now I know what they are for.


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The Lee Enfield is my first, and I must say I can now understand why we won the war. What a work of art and just an all around better piece of kit than the k98. Anyhow someone out there will be able to decipher the markings on the receiver for me....CLAVEN:redface:



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numrich sells the flashhider. The VZ58 has the same thread pitch so any of those muzzle devices will fit as well.
 
AAAaaarrrrrgghhhhh!

Every time I think of those threaded barrels I'm reminded of the time I went into Lever Arms in 1980 and he had dozens of M38s for sale for about $79.99.

I already owned an M96 and wanted a 38, but in my ignorance at the time (pre Internet) I thought they had been threaded for grenade launchers and that the barrels could have been bulged so I didn't buy one.

They do look a little naked, you're right.

If I remember right, Mr. Lever wasn't there at the time and his staffer didn't know what the threads were for either.

I had the money to spare at the time too.

Bought 200 rounds of Norma 6.5x55 hard point instead. Still have some.
 
Tyler said:
Groan.... :rolleyes: :D
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Don't groan too loud.

The threads on Swedish Mausers are indeed for a blank firing attachment. Swedish blanks used wooden "bullets" and the purpose of the BFA was to shred the wooden bullets.

http: //www.rebooty.com/~dutchman/ammo.html
 
Yeah, there's no rhyme or reason as to which rifles got threaded and which didn't. As rifles were needed for training, more were taken out of storage and threaded for the BFA. A threaded rifle is no better or worse than an unthreaded rifle, though many collectors gravitate toward the unthreaded examples.

The swedes used a plastic thread protector on the threads. I'm not sure if the bayonet could still be mounted or not, but from what I have read, the Swedes weren't big on bayonet fighting and the attachment method for the Swedish Mauser bayonet was never very positive to begin with.

Many collectors and shooters buy an aftermarket steel thread protector to cover the threads. Makes a threaded barrel look unthreaded. No steel protectors were military issue though - they are all aftermarket, just like those ridiculous FAL-type flash hiders you often see being sold for M96's. Yuck!
 
P.E. Islander said:
Don't groan too loud.

The threads on Swedish Mausers are indeed for a blank firing attachment. Swedish blanks used wooden "bullets" and the purpose of the BFA was to shred the wooden bullets.

http: //www.rebooty.com/~dutchman/ammo.html
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Ah, ok.

I learn something new every day. It just reminded me of jokes about BFA's and manually fired weapons, like howitzers, tank cannons, ect. Usually told to new guys who are sent on fool's errands.
 
The Lee Enfield is a very late Savage, originally a Mk. I*, made 1944, which went through a Factory Thorough Repair, at Fazakerley, near Birmingham, and was upgraded with a body hung trigger (Mk. 1/3), in 1953.
 
splinters?

I tried these woodden bullets at the range thinking they were for short range target practice...did not have the shredder at the muzzle and then I realised the bullets simply vanished in the thin air...then I tried boint blank on a paper target and there were just a few mark on the paper...disintegration of the bullet seems to work without the device....but to be on the safe side, like the military always insist on, I guess this device was required for blue on red force exercises...not sure which colors the Sweede uses..blue on yellow?



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Yep, threaded for a bullet shreder. Watch out for splinters!
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The Swedes just cut off pieces of clear plastic tubing - that's why you won't find originals. When I think I might be careless and possibly bugger up the threads, I just stick a piece of tubing over the muzzle, or wrap a few rounds of electrical tape over it. Flash-hiders are ghey.

I bought a box of wooden bullets a while back - just need a BFA now to test them out.
 
I bought the little metal protector and the bayonet fits really well on my Swede 38. Without the protector the bayonet is really sloppy. I also bought the flash hider for s**ts and giggles, but it doesn't look the part on a Swede. Maybe if I come across a nice bubba'd Swede with a sporter stock it might look the part. Are the flash hiders just for flash or do they act as muzzel brakes as well? Not that you need a brake on a Swede;)
 
I have the identical rifle I believe. Started out it's life as a No.4 Mk1* made in Chickopee Falls NewYork by Savage Arms or Maltby. The FTR stands for Factory Thorough repair. Basically went from the Mk 1 to the number Mk 2, or in this case as it had the * it became the No.4 Mk 1/3 in 1953. The trigger was now hung from the action. (F) stands for Fazackerly where the repairs were done. Yours will say Property of the United States on the receiver if made at Savage Arms. By the way I love mine and all parts match.
 
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tiriaq said:
The Lee Enfield is a very late Savage, originally a Mk. I*, made 1944, which went through a Factory Thorough Repair, at Fazakerley, near Birmingham, and was upgraded with a body hung trigger (Mk. 1/3), in 1953.
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Guess you're too quick on the draw for me!!! :)
 
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