Swedish M96 production numbers chart
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Not sure that the ranking is very accurate, though it could be. Reason I say that, is that I was doing a little research on my rifle and found that the Oberndorf Mausers only comprised 7% of total production, and made about 120 years ago. Just that is survived around 40 years to get converted to an M38 style makes it slightly less common. And then still here being one of the early made M96/38, is a bit of a feat itself.
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Ah, I see now that it is not billed as anything but a production ranking. And makes reference to rifles being lost and destroyed.
Yee haw! 1898 is another "uncommon" one.
It sure is in MY house. It's the only Swedish rifle I have. AND it has a low, three-figure serial number, too. Under 900, but higher than 890...
Not sure what Mig25 is getting at?? Production numbers certainly do matter, at least to some people anyway. Who built them also matters to some people.
Oberndorf numbers are a small percentage, for sure. There were 5000 M96's ordered apart from military production for the civilian marksmanship group (name escapes me at the moment), and are numbered 1-5000, most if not all being built in 1900.
Oberndorf numbers are a small percentage, for sure. There were 5000 M96's ordered apart from military production for the civilian marksmanship group (name escapes me at the moment), and are numbered 1-5000, most if not all being built in 1900.
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Seems to be what creates a market - differing opinions on what contributes to value - owners and sellers likely want to chose which is to their advantage - maker versus total originals - whereas buyer would want to do the reverse. Doubt very much that 1930's Swede Army cared one iota about either maker or production amount in any given year or even originality - likely just cared about whether parts gauged to standard and the rifle worked properly.
I do see only partial recognition of "originality" - so the receiver says 1924 or 1913 or whatever - what about the stock - what cartouches under the grip area - do they match up with alterations in parts? Do cartouches show three major overhauls, yet all numbered parts still match?? Does the serial stamped on stock and hand guard still match up with serial on the receiver? Do Inspector Initials with the receiver serial number confirm that was a M94, M96 or M38 receiver - all are identical to each other - many made side by side in the same plant for several decades.
Pretty much as detailed as you want to get into it. "Crown Jewels" by Dana Jones is a good start, but is alleged to contain errors, so have to have more than one reference to be sure... Husqvarna made both M96 and M38 - and earliest H M38's have GC made straight handle bolts - so sometimes details like that are not what people want to find out about...
I do see only partial recognition of "originality" - so the receiver says 1924 or 1913 or whatever - what about the stock - what cartouches under the grip area - do they match up with alterations in parts? Do cartouches show three major overhauls, yet all numbered parts still match?? Does the serial stamped on stock and hand guard still match up with serial on the receiver? Do Inspector Initials with the receiver serial number confirm that was a M94, M96 or M38 receiver - all are identical to each other - many made side by side in the same plant for several decades.
Pretty much as detailed as you want to get into it. "Crown Jewels" by Dana Jones is a good start, but is alleged to contain errors, so have to have more than one reference to be sure... Husqvarna made both M96 and M38 - and earliest H M38's have GC made straight handle bolts - so sometimes details like that are not what people want to find out about...
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None of this is new to me. I posted the chart for others to see. It is up to the individual to deduct from it what he or she may. I have several interesting rifles that are high on the collector interest chart. People collect or gather what tweaks their interest, whether it be high end drillings, vintage .22's, military surplus, or whatever. The rifles in my pile that have more $$ value than others are most always of low production numbers. The value I speak of includes dollar value and personal value to me.
**I changed the original title to "production numbers" chart. Is that better?
**I changed the original title to "production numbers" chart. Is that better?
StrelokM38
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I have a bit of a swede collection. Two of which are 1900 Oberndorf's. Ones a regular M96 with a standard infantry setup. And an M96/38 with a Vasteras adjustable sight that probably falls into the 5000 or so. I'll have to check the serial on that to make sure.
