Sweet sixteen

Claybuster said:
16 gauge easier to find than the 20? I've never seen that anywhere. I suppose it depends on your location. Are you in France perhaps?:p

I have no idea what you are getting at with your comment about extra long firing pins. ;)
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That was ment as a joke 16 ga shells going down a 12 ga. tube. Hense longer firing pins. I hate when I have to explain them. No I am not in France, but you do tend to twist my beret.
 
Win/64 said:
That was ment as a joke 16 ga shells going down a 12 ga. tube. Hense longer firing pins. I hate when I have to explain them. No I am not in France, but you do tend to twist my beret.
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Okay, now I understand the reference about the firing pins. I'll try not to twist your beret too much in future.;)
 
Claybuster said:
16 gauge easier to find than the 20? I've never seen that anywhere. I suppose it depends on your location. Are you in France perhaps?:p

The reason I get involved in these discussions is the nonsense propogated that there is something magical about the 16 gauge. There isn't. Regardless of what you are shooting if you put the pellets in the right place gauge doesn't matter. The 16 ounce to a pound, 1 ounce payload equals a square load and perfect pattern doesn't make sense either. Read Brister. Of all the qualities that affect pattern shot hardness and velocity are the most significant.

If you like it great. Use it, enjoy it and kill as many birds as you can. But don't try and make the gauge into something it isn't.




The advantages of a 16 gauge frame with 12 gauge barrels are twofold. The first is weight. It's lighter. Second is flexibility. I load 12 and have ready access to a good assortment of factory loads. I also don't have to listen to the clerk at the gunstore sneeze when he blows the dust off the box of 16 gauge that has sat there since the early 70's.;)

I have no idea what you are getting at with your comment about extra long firing pins. As for the price that's between me and my banker.

Overall don't take my comments too much to heart. The most fun I have with the 16 gauge is rousing its more excitable fans to spirited Internet debates. ;)
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theres lots of places around and in Toronto that sells 16 gauge ammo
 
Speaking of sweet sixteen, I just recieved a very nice gift in the mail today from Dumbdawg ( my B-Day prezzie) A nice 870 Remington 16 gauge !!! It's sooo nice , as soon as I held it , I knew it was mine . Very comfortable in my arms. 24 " barrel... perfect! :rockOn: Thankyou DD :bigHug: :bigHug: ( oh, hell let's go to bed!) ;)
 
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I have fettish for 16's. I shoot them all --- Winchester model 12, Winchester model 24, Ithaca model 37 ( of the pumps the mod 12 is the go to gun), Merkel model 201E O/U. FN (Browning) Auto 5, Watson Brothers and a JP Sauer Royal. Of them all the Merkel is favored and the 24 a close second. However the model 24 is the one I shoot best. Still looking for more!!!!
Cheers!
 
Grouser said:
I have fettish for 16's. I shoot them all --- Winchester model 12, Winchester model 24, Ithaca model 37 ( of the pumps the mod 12 is the go to gun), Merkel model 201E O/U. FN (Browning) Auto 5, Watson Brothers and a JP Sauer Royal. Of them all the Merkel is favored and the 24 a close second. However the model 24 is the one I shoot best. Still looking for more!!!!
Cheers!
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Wow... quite the collection! :rockOn:
 
When one says they have a sweet-sixteen for sale ,one generaly thinks A5!

Same as when some one says have 66 Mustang for sale,they think Ford!

But I guess if you love the 16 guage they all are sweet!

If I am going to buy a 41 year old Mustang (it had better not have four legs)!

Bob
 
Long while back I had the pleasure of owning a Winchester 1897 pump in 16ga. I shot it a lot on pigeons and crows. To me it was far more like a 20ga, than a 12ga. It was a nice shotgun, but a day came when someone else wanted it more than I did, and it was sold.
 
I have a Win Mod 12 in 16ga that was passed down to me from the elders. Been in the family since 1934. I use it on grouse, ducks and geese mainly. Such a wonderful guage and sweet shooting gun. Easy to lug around all day too.

I mostly buy my ammo at SIR in Wpg and occasionally Wal-Mart/Cdn Tire. I try to stay away from wholesale as their prices are kind of high and selection is dismal. Last time I went in they didn't even have a singe box of 12ga 2.75" steel. :eek:
 
Rem 870 16ga

Maybe someone here can tell me if the magazine tube on a 16ga is the same as on a 12Ga since chances are the receivers are the same?????Thus forehand grisps would be interchangable???Surely some of you Rem870 lovers have both the gages and can take measurements ????
TIA CCIC :confused:
 
CCIC, the Rem 870 16 ga. is a sort of hybrid, unfortunately, they just stuck a 16 ga barrel on a 12 ga frame. poorer ballistics with the same handling and weight of a 12. That's not how it's 'spozed to be!
To get the real advantage of a 16 ga, it must be built on a true 16 ga frame, like my Merkel 201/211E or on a 20 gauge frame like my Browning Citori. I used a pair of model 12 Winchesters for a while, they were built on the same 16 ga frame for both the 16 and 20. The 16 had the ballistic advantage of the bigger bore and no more weight. I shoot the O/U's better so have stuck with them and sold the pumps. I also once had a really nice trim Ithaca Flues SxS 16 that I had Nick Makinson completely restore the barrels, and Chris Wilcox built a new stock for it. It had 30" barrels and weighed just a hair over 6 lbs, the perfect gun for long walks after sharptails. My good buddy just needed it more than me so it followed him home one day. I like my 16s. Probably as much for the "cool" factor as anything! It really puzzles people on the sporting clays course when you show up with one.
 
Longwalker said:
CCIC, the Rem 870 16 ga. is a sort of hybrid, unfortunately, they just stuck a 16 ga barrel on a 12 ga frame. poorer ballistics with the same handling and weight of a 12. That's not how it's 'spozed to be!
To get the real advantage of a 16 ga, it must be built on a true 16 ga frame, like my Merkel 201/211E or on a 20 gauge frame like my Browning Citori. I used a pair of model 12 Winchesters for a while, they were built on the same 16 ga frame for both the 16 and 20. The 16 had the ballistic advantage of the bigger bore and no more weight. I shoot the O/U's better so have stuck with them and sold the pumps. I also once had a really nice trim Ithaca Flues SxS 16 that I had Nick Makinson completely restore the barrels, and Chris Wilcox built a new stock for it. It had 30" barrels and weighed just a hair over 6 lbs, the perfect gun for long walks after sharptails. My good buddy just needed it more than me so it followed him home one day. I like my 16s. Probably as much for the "cool" factor as anything! It really puzzles people on the sporting clays course when you show up with one.
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Sorry for the late reply longwalker. I was built on a 20 ga.frame myself,
5'6" 140lbs so I've always tought that the 12 ga was a bit hard on the shoulder and that is why I love the sixteen so much,just about the same ballistics like you say with a bit less recoil.I'm trying to find a 16ga barrel for my Rem 870.They don't come around very often but the waiting for the new part is just "part of the fun" in playing with these toys.
Thank you for the reply Longwalker,
CCIC
 
My grandfather was a subsistance hunter for 40 years and the only shotgun he owned was a single shot 16 gauge. It killed everything from grouse to moose it probably has taken more game than anyone of us will ever see. He used a 16 because it was a "hard-shooting" gun and it kicked less than a 12 gauge.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
My grandfather was a subsistance hunter for 40 years and the only shotgun he owned was a single shot 16 gauge. It killed everything from grouse to moose it probably has taken more game than anyone of us will ever see. He used a 16 because it was a "hard-shooting" gun and it kicked less than a 12 gauge.
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I love the internet.
 
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I also like the 16 for ducks over decoys as well as partridge, etc. I have a Winchester model 12 that is giving me fits getting to properly eject 2.75" shells and a nice Verney Caron SXS double. Both are light and handle lovely.

One of my grand fathers did much of his hunting for deer and moose with an old mauser bolt action conversion in 16.

Regards,

Outdoors
 
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