Its the ACE folder pieces for AR15, the buffer tube is a Vltor shotgun buffer tube that has the screw on cap/hidden chamber which I have about 10oz in it for better balance.
Makes the balance of the front heavy Swiss better IMO.
Swiss Arms/ Aimpoint CompM4s
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Its the ACE folder pieces for AR15, the buffer tube is a Vltor shotgun buffer tube that has the screw on cap/hidden chamber which I have about 10oz in it for better balance.
Makes the balance of the front heavy Swiss better IMO.
All those optics are way too high.
You wont have any worthwhile cheek weld, you'll be hunting for your dot while shouldering your weapon, and with a 40 meter zero you'll practically have to aim over someones head to get a brain stem shot at 5 meters
The Aimpoint M3 and T1 fit guns with elevated rails better, something many XCR shooters have figured out. None of the M4 mounts are "tall rail friendly"
Examples:
You wont have any worthwhile cheek weld, you'll be hunting for your dot while shouldering your weapon, and with a 40 meter zero you'll practically have to aim over someones head to get a brain stem shot at 5 meters
The Aimpoint M3 and T1 fit guns with elevated rails better, something many XCR shooters have figured out. None of the M4 mounts are "tall rail friendly"
Examples:
sigger, its about knowing your weapon and holdover. that's why practice is critical. red dots have a specific purpose and cheek weld goes out the window. a good shooter with lots of practice 'nose' his weapon well under all circumstances and can place the projectile in either the right or left nostril of the deer he is aiming at with one of these when dialed in regardless how high its mounted, can he not?
Doesnt matter how one tries to justify it, there is nothing advantageous about running your optics a mile in the air for a nice loose chin weld. If one chooses to, and needs to work around it, more power to them. I dont really care either way, but SIG owners should know what their options are.
You can do this:
Or you can do something like this, which makes a hell of a lot more sense if one values consistent shouldering, less height over bore concerns, and some semblance of co-witnessing
Sigger you are right, chin weld is not optimum, nor is running a sight a mile high but quite frankly cheek weld is not critical either in cqb situations where a perp might have a hostage held tightly, knowing your weapon is critical in that situation and in that case you better have a sig and not an xcr with and aimpoint you know intimately! too much is talked about and not enough practice is being done.
The factory micros work well on many high railed guns. I also put one on an m14, and it was great.I get perfect co-witness with my Micro on my CQB. I do need to buy a cheek piece though... to gain an extra edge in target acquisition as I move from target to target in a tactical match stage.
To some extent, I agree that optics make proper shouldering, and cheek weld less critical. People who run tactical carbine classes will attest to this, given the emphasis on shooting in borderline unnatural positions. Optics are literal life savers in these scenarios
At the same time, I see no need to confound the inherent, potentially life threatening problems that comes with self defense and force on force encounters by having a gun that is in a less than optimum configuration
I've run non-AR15 guns with very tall, chin weld optics in the past, and have long since determined through trial and error and after tens of thousands of rounds that I prefer the consistency that comes with a proper cheek weld
I get perfect co-witness with my Micro on my CQB. I do need to buy a cheek piece though... to gain an extra edge in target acquisition as I move from target to target in a tactical match stage.
Those little Aimpoints are a god sends. Especially for people that dont shoot AR15's.
Between it's default integrated mount, and the 3 different height Larue mounts, it can co witness with just about anything
I get perfect co-witness with my Micro on my CQB. I do need to buy a cheek piece though... to gain an extra edge in target acquisition as I move from target to target in a tactical match stage.
I cant stand co-witnessed sights, I find it a totally cluttered ####ty view thru the Swiss front shroud.
That T1 pictured looks like a fake.
The most sensible solution is a flattop carbine without the front sight hood - but people insist on having the factory iron sight to have the "Sig-ish" look. So the solution is to pile up more mounts and incompatible optic solutions on it.
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It is an H1 not a T1, I didn't need NV compatability.
Bought it from an Aimpoint dealer here in Vancouver. Seems to be legit. Registered it with Aimpoint for warranty.
I like having co-witness on the CQB. It works well for me. The red dot fits perfectly into the white dot of the front post.
Super fast target acquisition
I focus on the red dot on the front post.On my SAN Classic Green I use an ACOG chevron reticle and don't bother to co-witness.
