Swiss arms classic green restricted?

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The fact that these rifles have been in circulation as non restricted for years, and there is no history of problems to society, suggest to me that the system of classification is a waste of resources.
I'd be OK with only restricting full auto at this point in time.
 
The variant thing is definitely vague, and that plays to their advantage. We all remember the hoopla over the Armi Jaeger AP80 .22 that was deemed a variant of the AK, but it was also a variant of a named .22 prohib.

AR180Bshooter - I agree with you, my point was more towards the absurdity of the RCMP deciding that our SAN rifles are 550 variants while SAN themselves have said that they are derived from the 54x series.


Familygunnutz- I can't comment on the sig 556 been a variant because I've never analyzed or seen a 550 or 556 in person. We need a complete revamp of the firearms act, with decriminalization of all the paper crimes and the elimination of bull#### words & phrases like "variant" & "easily convertible".
 
Variants, what a joke. The rcmp could be a variant of the Praetorian Guard, lets prohibit them as a precaution.
Makes about as much sense as the bs they keep pulling.
 
Well if there's one thing this thread has done is that it shows that not everyone is up to speed on the review earlier in the year of the Swiss Arms rifle.

Post #1 and #2 in this thread (click here) have copy and sign letters to send to your MP, PSM, and PM. Every letter helps and adds to the pile, even if the review is done and came down with the same classification that the rifle had prior to the deadline.

Especially for those of us that don't own the rifle it's important to stand together or watch as different brands of rifles get removed from rightful owners one by one. Show our elected officials that we stand together and send in these letters.
 
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Brian46 said:
even if it hasn't, anything that has been bought and sold since has not been recorded anywhere.
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Alot of people give out their PAL number when buying new and used. Yeah I know, a bit tinfoiley.
But besides, we're a nation of sheep. We'll hand them over faster than Norinco puts out 1911's.:)
 
Brian46 said:
unfortunate for them, BC CFO has instructed retailers not to record the info, I would hope private sellers/buyers would follow that same instruction, if not, they will not get and business from me.
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I don't sweat the small stuff.

I've got a PAL, so the Feds. know where to get me. If and when they want me.:)
 
Brian46 said:
they would have to prove service of that letter for them to make a case saying you knew of the status change.
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I'm pretty sure they can afford to send a registered letter to everyone. We would be the ones paying for it anyway.
Plus, once again. They wouldn't need to prove anything. If it's illegal to own one and you own one you're getting charged if you're caught with it. Things change and it's up to us to keep ourselves educated and current. It isn't up to them to spoon feed us and guide us along.
 
Can-down said:
The fact that these rifles have been in circulation as non restricted for years, and there is no history of problems to society, suggest to me that the system of classification is a waste of resources.
I'd be OK with only restricting full auto at this point in time.
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You're 100% right. This has nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with them trying to take away our guns. They start on a rifle that there are very few of and test what they can get away with and set a precedent. Next will be another semi auto then another then all semi auto's then anything with a detachable magazine, then handguns, then all bolt actions, then they'll make ammo so expensive we can't afford to feed our single shots then we'll all be safe. Problem is they don't realize the criminals aren't going to turn in anything and they will always find a way to get firearms and ammo.
High River was a test to see what they could get away with and how much of a sh!tstorm it would raise.

9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing were staged by the government so they could ramp up the war on terror and move themselves closer to martial law. Read up on the safe act and see what they are trying to do now.

Oops, getting off topic. Darn tinfoil hat is on too tight again.
 
Brian46 said:
with non acurrate information an where they actually are they are going to have to come up with a new method to make sure they get them all and quickly.
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its easy, just have the local dams open their sluice gates wide releasing most of the reservoir without telling any anybody,wait for all the towns on the river system to flood, kick the residents out for 2 weeks and boot down all the doors....
 
cr5 said:
9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing were staged by the government so they could ramp up the war on terror and move themselves closer to martial law. Read up on the safe act and see what they are trying to do now.
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You gotta stop reading the "National Enquire".;)
 
cr5 said:
I'm pretty sure they can afford to send a registered letter to everyone. We would be the ones paying for it anyway.
Plus, once again. They wouldn't need to prove anything. If it's illegal to own one and you own one you're getting charged if you're caught with it. Things change and it's up to us to keep ourselves educated and current. It isn't up to them to spoon feed us and guide us along.
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registered letter is not a legal form of delivery in the courts eyes, a private person does not have to pick it up. I deal with this very often.
 
LordEvilPepper said:
its easy, just have the local dams open their sluice gates wide releasing most of the reservoir without telling any anybody,wait for all the towns on the river system to flood, kick the residents out for 2 weeks and boot down all the doors....
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this only works for those who live in a flood plain and those who do not take firearms with them
 
smak_daddy said:
You mean like this? :)

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If I see you trying to sell that "customized masterpiece" for more than retail, I'm going to puke.
 
cr5 said:
I don't own one anymore but I still don't want to see these reclassified. If they get away with this it's only a matter of time till they pick another to take away.
It's just a shame they don't actually get off their ass and maybe focus on criminals instead of bothering us.
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You are strengthening Mercs point. He is saying Canadian gun owners just bow down and do as were told by RCMP instead of standing up to them a little, like our American neighbours. I'm not saying a full on gun war against the police, more of a protest. We just sit back and write letters to people who don't give a flying $%& about guns. So just like you said, if they take away the Swiss and everyone acts like good little Canadians and bring in their guns. What makes you think 6 months later they won't start the spark for another black rifle??? See what happens in the USA if the government makes rifles prohibited?? oh wait they are now? and how are they reacting compared to us? We just write letters with proper English and grammar, sounding very intelligent and educated. Americans basically write a letter on a napkin saying go %&#$ yourself and come dare take my rifle away.

Just my two cents
 
cr5 said:
You're 100% right. This has nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with them trying to take away our guns. They start on a rifle that there are very few of and test what they can get away with and set a precedent. Next will be another semi auto then another then all semi auto's then anything with a detachable magazine, then handguns, then all bolt actions, then they'll make ammo so expensive we can't afford to feed our single shots then we'll all be safe. Problem is they don't realize the criminals aren't going to turn in anything and they will always find a way to get firearms and ammo.
High River was a test to see what they could get away with and how much of a sh!tstorm it would raise.

9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing were staged by the government so they could ramp up the war on terror and move themselves closer to martial law. Read up on the safe act and see what they are trying to do now.

Oops, getting off topic. Darn tinfoil hat is on too tight again.
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Again, exactly why I will never turn anything in. Call me a criminal, really don't care.
 
trebor2880 said:
You gotta stop reading the "National Enquire".;)
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sorry man but your crazy if you think Osama bin laden actually had any part of that. Sorry, people and I feel terrible for all those lost in those buildings, planes and war since. But IMO, these oil bastards, what's a few thousand American's to them? in return for a number of dollars I'm not sure I know how to call it? Billion, trillion, then what?

If I take a jenga pile, and cut the top 5 pieces. You know what happens?? the top 5 pieces fall off, but the lower 30 don't move. Ohhhh and if it does move because I hit it sloppy, it falls sideways, not perfectly on a 0 degree angle downwards. Twice!!!!!

Oh but your right they killed Bin Laden right? Shot and killed, then thrown over a boat without any evidence that he was killed. Then the entire unit that killed him, died in a helicopter crash a month later, how convenient . But Saddam Hussein was hung and I saw pictures on the cover of the Toronto Sun. But the guy who killed over 2000 americans, caused the countries biggest economic downfall, he doesn't even get a selfie of him dead????

Sorry I don't need National Enquirer for any of the above. Just common sense.

Ohhh wait one more fun fact. You remember the last people that surprise attacked American soil and killed 2000 people??? ohh what was that country called again???? Oh right Japan on pearl harbour. What did Americans do to retaliate? oh right they wiped two cities off the face of the earth, women, kids, cats, dogs everything. Nagasaki and Hiroshima. But ya your right, this time Americans were more educated and not as brutal like savages. They strategically blew up caves where only bad people lived, while setting up a government in their favour and what else???? American oil companies that are well funded.

Just copy and paste parts that are not factual?
 
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