I watch you while you sleep.And how would you know.
But seriously, is it really that important?
Swiss Arms Classic green
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Too bad about the arbitrary prohib status, I would've thought it would be an "AR" variant....
Inferior rifle? It probably is, but the significantly "inferior" price would be an asset (assuming no reliability issues).
. Then again, hypothetically by the time this gets to Kanada it would be twice the MSRP!
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Too bad about the arbitrary prohib status, I would've thought it would be an "AR" variant....
Inferior rifle? It probably is, but the significantly "inferior" price would be an asset (assuming no reliability issues).
For the same price state side, you can almost get a Colt 6920 or the like. The American Sig 556 just wasn't manufactured to the same quality standards as a mid range AR (CMMG, Bushmaster), and is not even close to a top tier AR or a Swiss Arms.
That, IMO, makes it an inferior rifle.
I am interested in seeing how the 551-a1 does though... I've heard some very promising reports of it state side, and much more care and QC seem to have been done in its manufacture... and this is reflected by the increased MSRP.
You can buy a North Eastern Arms lower for the Swiss Arms. It accepts AR-15 mags. It's great shooting the Swiss with 10 round LAR mags. Here's mine:
Everytime I see this pic I just start to get depressed since as things stand I can't afford one.
Soon though... Hopefully... And the SAPR too.
As mentioned earlier, you can get the nea lower receiver (which will allow you to use AR mags). Essentially, you'll end up with a Sig 556 (avialable in the US for about $1500) by spending $3k on a classic green and $600 on an NEA lower
Personally, I wish a dealer would find a way to bring in the 556 or even the 516.
I have heard the American made Sig Sauer 556 has a very bad QC and reliability reputation ..
Yes, there are some owners who aren't happy. Sounds like Sig put it out to market a bit quick. Apparently there's a 2009 receiver and a post 2010 made receiver which is significantly stronger/different.
It sounds like the 2010 (and after) model is the one you wanna get if you could.
Being in Kanada, this whole point is moot (ruled a prohibited rifle). But hey, maybe we can get an Order-In- Council to reverse that, eh?
I wish I had never seen this.
I handled one of this at Target Sport, the wiggle between top and bottom half was gone but the top receiver could not pivot open with the NEA lower. Does this happen to yours?You can buy a North Eastern Arms lower for the Swiss Arms. It accepts AR-15 mags. It's great shooting the Swiss with 10 round LAR mags. Here's mine:
Ar180shooter
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Not the same rifle, there are several significant differences. But, that being said... the rifle has been plagued with QC issues such as canted rails, poor upper/lower receiver fitting, poor accuracy with certain rifles, cheaply made folding stocks and lack of customer service in resolving the listed issues. Some of those issues have since been resolved, but the rifle is still not up to the same quality standards as the Swiss made rifles.
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The problem is that the uppers cost almost as much as the full rifle, and the lower parts kit is very expensive. This means that the upper only and a lower parts kit is almost the same price as the whole rifle... so not worth it.
Good point.....but it all starts with an idea. And sometimes circumstances conspire that make these ideas workable.
For instance, Sig USA is selling 516 uppers for $949 to 1049 retail (July edition of Shotgun News). Now if 516 uppers are that much, the 556 uppers should be about the same, as they're both piston assemblies). NEA lower for $500-ish retail . Add a stock and trigger parts. So you should be well under 2K. I don't know what import expenses/profit margins are the norm, but if there's a will, there's a way.......
Is the Canuck market big enough for some business to try? Is it worthwhile?
I'd buy one for 2 to 3 k, but that's just me.....
Maybe we can keep the idea going long enough that someone in the business will do a cost analysis to see for sure
Ar180shooter
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Good point.....but it all starts with an idea. And sometimes circumstances conspire that make these ideas workable.
For instance, Sig USA is selling 516 uppers for $949 to 1049 retail (July edition of Shotgun News). Now if 516 uppers are that much, the 556 uppers should be about the same, as they're both piston assemblies). NEA lower for $500-ish retail . Add a stock and trigger parts. So you should be well under 2K. I don't know what import expenses/profit margins are the norm, but if there's a will, there's a way.......
Is the Canuck market big enough for some business to try? Is it worthwhile?
I'd buy one for 2 to 3 k, but that's just me.....
Maybe we can keep the idea going long enough that someone in the business will do a cost analysis to see for sure
Several things are wrong with this... Firstly, the Sig 556 is prohib, so the entire post is moot. Second, a Lower parts kit is around $500, so add the upper, stock and lower, you're well over $2000... and that's figuring with an $1100 U.S. made upper that might not even work properly on the lower, and won't ever be available up here anyway. At the end of the day, you'd have spent over $2000 for something that is inferior to what you can get here.
But again, the Sig 556 is prohibited, so there is no way your idea would ever be viable.
Ar180shooter
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American gun nuts who know anything about anything go ga ga over the PE90/550/Classic Green.
Yup. I'm on a few American forums too, and they have a healthy respect for the quality and refinement of the Swiss Arms rifles.
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