SX3 blew up
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Ok, just got off the phone with my friend, here's the breakdown of what I know so far.
Less than a year old 3.5" sx3
Shooting 3.5" blackclouds
The gun fired the first round and locked open with the new round in the carrier. He hit the bolt release and chambered the next round. When he fired, it doubled and ended up with the entire case of one of the rounds in the barrel with the rim rolled back. Receiver is cracked, bolt carrier is cracked in pieces. There was powder burn on my friend hand and finger. He was guiding at the time and it scared the hell out of his clients!
It's being shipped back now so we'll see what happen.
Rudi - I was just asking for everyone's guesses because I figure people like to guess what happen to guns that blow up. I'm not looking for any useful information, just random brain farts from everyone and see if someone get sit right when we hear back from winchester.
Less than a year old 3.5" sx3
Shooting 3.5" blackclouds
The gun fired the first round and locked open with the new round in the carrier. He hit the bolt release and chambered the next round. When he fired, it doubled and ended up with the entire case of one of the rounds in the barrel with the rim rolled back. Receiver is cracked, bolt carrier is cracked in pieces. There was powder burn on my friend hand and finger. He was guiding at the time and it scared the hell out of his clients!
It's being shipped back now so we'll see what happen.
Rudi - I was just asking for everyone's guesses because I figure people like to guess what happen to guns that blow up. I'm not looking for any useful information, just random brain farts from everyone and see if someone get sit right when we hear back from winchester.
I'd say the problem was he bought a semi-auto shotgun.No.
The first round fired, and the bolt locked back. The spent round was extracted, and a fresh round was sitting on the carrier. He thought it was weird, but was not alarmed. He chambered the round on the carrier and proceed to fired on some cripples (which is what he use his gun for most of the time), it then doubled and one of the hull ended up in the barrel. Brass and all.
I have never heard of an entire shell end up in a barrel before, so I am loss for words on that. It was taken back to the store where it was confirmed that it was a factory round and not a hand load.
The first round fired, and the bolt locked back. The spent round was extracted, and a fresh round was sitting on the carrier. He thought it was weird, but was not alarmed. He chambered the round on the carrier and proceed to fired on some cripples (which is what he use his gun for most of the time), it then doubled and one of the hull ended up in the barrel. Brass and all.
I have never heard of an entire shell end up in a barrel before, so I am loss for words on that. It was taken back to the store where it was confirmed that it was a factory round and not a hand load.
No, I read it as it didn't cycle properly and the bolt and the next shell didn't load up properly. He fired it and then it 'doubled' - two shots fired automatically? I'm betting that third shot (the second of the 'doubled') wasn't fully chambered somehow when the hammer came down.
Obviously it did happen!
I don't think this was the shooter's fault. If the wrong ammo was used and the shell went forward into the chamber the gun wouldn't have doubled. There would have been just one big boom.
It's hard to tell without seeing the gun immediately after the event but my guess is an out of battery firing of some sort. Something broke inside on the first shot which caused the action not to close properly. The second shot was chambered manually, fired normally but didn't eject. The third round discharged in the open action, the second shell wasn't ejected causing the hull to be blown into the barrel. This would have caused it to "double" as in "boom-boom"
Any idea what happened to the 3rd hull?
It's hard to tell without seeing the gun immediately after the event but my guess is an out of battery firing of some sort. Something broke inside on the first shot which caused the action not to close properly. The second shot was chambered manually, fired normally but didn't eject. The third round discharged in the open action, the second shell wasn't ejected causing the hull to be blown into the barrel. This would have caused it to "double" as in "boom-boom"
Any idea what happened to the 3rd hull?
I can see two things.
User error - especially a 20 gauge shell getting into the barrel then a 12gauge behind it.
OR
Mechanical error - 1st round something breaks and locks the bolt back, second round chambered, fires and bolt leaves battery early and detonates the third round in the process due to something wrong with the lockup.
User error - especially a 20 gauge shell getting into the barrel then a 12gauge behind it.
OR
Mechanical error - 1st round something breaks and locks the bolt back, second round chambered, fires and bolt leaves battery early and detonates the third round in the process due to something wrong with the lockup.
