T3 270 cant lock bolt with reload

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Went shooting this weekend. Had 10 winchester rounds reloaded a friend gave me. Bolt moved forward all the way but would not lock. Took quite an effort to twist the bolt handle down so I didnt shoot.

The guy who gave me the amo said he had that too with his riffle but he forced the bolt to lock up and then just shoot.

Only one reload round in the batch that was easy to let the bolt lock up but it wasn't a winchester round.

What should I do? Is this normal. The caliber is 270.

Thanks for the info.

c
 
Sounds like the cases are too long and need to be trimmed. I wouldn't recommend forcing it like that. If the case is too long and you force the chamber shut, it could pinch the bullet and cause a kaboom.

Get some dial calipers and measure the ammo for case length and overall length and that may tell you something.
 
Or they are not sized right! (my guess) and also my guess they are not new brass or fired from a diferent gun

I found teh sam ewhen bumping my 270 loads, even after once fired they were tight

lower your die, and cam them down holder to die, than try! I bet that will work out for ya!
 
I had this happen with new brass for my 30.06. my brother put some rounds together for me and the bolt wouldn't close. I didn't want to force it in case something was wrong. a couple of guys examined the rounds and put just a bit more strength into closing the bolt. a-ok, everything was fine and they shot with no problems. my brothers currently reloading the brass used on that day too. :)
 
Or they are not sized right! (my guess) and also my guess they are not new brass or fired from a diferent gun

I found teh sam ewhen bumping my 270 loads, even after once fired they were tight

lower your die, and cam them down holder to die, than try! I bet that will work out for ya!



I'd say hes wright, the same thing happened to me the brass was once fired from a gun with a longer/larger chamber.
 
Went shooting this weekend. Had 10 winchester rounds reloaded a friend gave me. Bolt moved forward all the way but would not lock. Took quite an effort to twist the bolt handle down so I didnt shoot.

The guy who gave me the amo said he had that too with his riffle but he forced the bolt to lock up and then just shoot.

Only one reload round in the batch that was easy to let the bolt lock up but it wasn't a winchester round.

What should I do? Is this normal. The caliber is 270.

Thanks for the info.

c

No it is not normal for properly sized ammo to cause difficulty in locking up the bolt.

My guess is he neck sized instead of full length sizing. If it were my rifle I wouldn't use that ammo. Either buy factory ammo or get it loaded correctly.
 
No it is not normal for properly sized ammo to cause difficulty in locking up the bolt.

My guess is he neck sized instead of full length sizing. If it were my rifle I wouldn't use that ammo. Either buy factory ammo or get it loaded correctly.

+ 1 ,, they are probably just neck sized . You should probably give them back to you'r friend & get you'r self some factory ammo .
 
Neck sized

Neck sizing will usually give you the same results after 4 or 5 firings in the same bolt gun. Once you start to get that you need to full length resize once more. Since your gun is different, your already hitting the hard bolt close.

I would not shoot them only for the reason that if you do have a high pressure round you just may not get your bolt open without lots of hammering.
 
Only way you can run others reloads is if they are full sized as many others have said. I have one set of dies that even with full sizing and the shellholder touching the die and camming over the press still wouldn't allow lockup in my T3, eventually ground the shellholder a tiny bit and no more problems. Tikka runs very low tolerance chambers
 
Neck sizing will usually give you the same results after 4 or 5 firings in the same bolt gun. Once you start to get that you need to full length resize once more. Since your gun is different, your already hitting the hard bolt close.

I would not shoot them only for the reason that if you do have a high pressure round you just may not get your bolt open without lots of hammering.

X2 on this I had trouble closing the bolt on my 7MM RM as I was only partially resizing my brass, after around about 7 or 8 firings I found them hard to chamber. Just go back to full length resizing all your brass and then from there on go back to partial resizing until you get chambering problems again
 
Making sure the loaded cartridge goes properly into the chamber is absolute basic reloading. Reloading shouldn't continue until it is known that teh cartridges will go in.
At one time, after loading one cartridge, I would go up stairs and tell my wife I was going to go outside with my rifle and chamber a loaded a shell. I would tell her there was a slim, remote chance it could go off. But not to worry, it would be pointed at the ground.
Now, this thing they call modernization has caught up to us. If a big rifle shot went off now, in the same yard, I would quickly be surrounded by more police than I thought existed in the area. Can't chamber a live round now!
After resizing the first case, it should be tried in the chamber. If the rifle is of the old Mauser type, the bolt should be removed, the sized case fitted in the bolt face and the bolt returned to the rifle. You should feel no more resistance than maybe a slight touch as it kisses the shoulder.
OK, the case is properly resized, but this does not guarantee the loaded cartridge will go in! Some of us will take a fired case (same rifle, of course) slightly squeeze the neck,so a bullet will go in the neck finger tight. We will push in a bullet a bit in the neck, then chamber that dummy load, using the method described, if it is a Mauser type action. We will slowly close the bolt, which will push the bullet into the case, as it hits the lands. Now, the dummy load will touch the lands, so if that is what we want, we will set the seating die to this setting. Most likely this will not feed through the magazine, so if we want to work with the magazine, we will try it and adjust it in until it does work through the magazine.
We will now set the seating die to seat the bullet at that over all length. I hate to say so, but if the cases are going to be crimped, or are accidently crimped when we didn't intend it, the loaded cartridge may still not go into the chamber, as it should! This is because the crimping may force the neck back a bit, thus expanding the shoulder. Some cartridges are much worse for doing this than others. For example, this will likely not happen with a 30-30. but could easily happen with a 243 Win.
So, the best, safest way to know if the loaded rounds will chamber, is to make the first "loaded" round a dummy; no powder and preferrably, no primer. If this chambers satisfactorily, you can go ahead and load up.
Some one on here may point out that I did not mention what the book says is the over all cartridge length. You are right, I did not. And that is because I couldn't care less what some loading book says my coal should be. My cartridges are designed to fit my rifle!
 
If the reloads are crimped, there is also the possibility that the seating die body is adjusted too far down, causing the shoulder to be flared out enough to keep the round from chambering.
 
If the reloads are crimped, there is also the possibility that the seating die body is adjusted too far down, causing the shoulder to be flared out enough to keep the round from chambering.

Looks like you didn't read all of my posting.
 
Or they are not sized right! (my guess) and also my guess they are not new brass or fired from a diferent gun

I found teh sam ewhen bumping my 270 loads, even after once fired they were tight

lower your die, and cam them down holder to die, than try! I bet that will work out for ya!

My vote for this as well. Have seen it before. Also experienced it with Lee FL sizing dies, had to turn the case 90 degrees 4 times to get the bolt to close on the occasional resized brass, most were okay. It was a .270 WSM Ruger M77 MkII.
 
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