Shooter1of38
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Norc 223 is good to go. It's not steel core (or at least a magnet doesn't stick to it).
T97 vs JR Carbine
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Norc 223 is good to go. It's not steel core (or at least a magnet doesn't stick to it).
I agree but it happens to some more then others. on all the other topics about the t97 and jrc a lot of people are having problems with both guns and other people aren't.
I already have a mossberg 715t which is a pos. lol I want to get a centrefire rifle or carbine. I'm kinda thinking Ill grab a t97 tomorrow just to hold me over till spring
My JR ran FLAWLESSLY. Keep in mind that people who have problems will be the ones screaming the loudest, so it tends to drown out all the positive experiences. You'll be happy with the JR, I haven't had a chance to try the T97, so I can't comment.
Seriously consider getting your restricted. Its where all the fun is at.
Seriously consider getting your restricted. Its where all the fun is at.
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Shooter1of38
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That's how they label it. I was shocked to learn we could shoot cheap Norc ammo there. I'm glad we can!
- Location
- South Shore, Nova Scotia
...that's a matter of opinion. I like the range, and visit one at least twice a week. Except this time of year...I'm out in the woods with my choice for the day.
I'd agree on one thing: holders of RPALs will keep the gun grabbers busy for a few years....being at the top of the RCMP's list.
I'll stick to my....um.......22 single shot.
:-/
TV-Press is a little conceded in his posting in thread but on the whole is speaking truth.
but I would say judging from the op post's that he is looking for something under $1,000 and non-restricted but still modular.
For 2 city blocks or less the 9mm carbine is quite effective if you can shoot.
TOTALLY
but I would say judging from the op post's that he is looking for something under $1,000 and non-restricted but still modular.For 2 city blocks or less the 9mm carbine is quite effective if you can shoot.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Id go with an SR22.
Ive been shooting awhile now and owned alot of guns but the SR22 still captivates me. Cheap as hell to shoot and with your budget you can trick it out with a decent optic and Dlask rail kit.
Ive been shooting awhile now and owned alot of guns but the SR22 still captivates me. Cheap as hell to shoot and with your budget you can trick it out with a decent optic and Dlask rail kit.
I know exactly where you speak of ..nice little range busy sometimes.... and yeah agree their backstop is rated and ok'd for everything up to 300 win. And 50ae in handguns ...
You will have alot more fun with the jr at that range and in general ..9mm is still relatively cheap...almost no kick...lots more add on goodies too if you want to have fun with your new toy...not to mention 9mm is alot more managable noise wise indoors
Where are you going to shoot? The JR is a good gun if you are gunna shoot at alot of indoor ranges, as it is a pistol calibre and will most likely be in good keeping with most indoor range rules. If you are going to shoot outdoors alot at 100m and beyond, then the T97 is a much better bet.
pointandshoot
CGN Regular
- Location
- richmond, bc
I'll just leave this here....https://masterpiecearms.com/proddetail.php?prod=MPAR556&cat=23
nothing official about them in Canada since they just started manufacturing and sending them out in the states this year. there is a thread started about them in the Blue Line sponsor section. i believe they are going to be the importer for them and are pushing for a NR status (with 18.5+ barrel of coarse). predicted price just squeaking over a grand (1200-1400 but who knows till they actually get here). sorry, doesn't help the "i want it now" part. irunguns did have a couple of used AR180B's going for around the $1500USD mark, i see they are spoken for now but always work checking back in with them time to time.
Very interesting!! I think I'm going to grab a t97 for now and hopefully that comes out and gets some good reviews. After hearing everyone say the jrc is only good up to 50 yards I'd rather go with the t97. That way if I choose to get my hunting licence I can hunt coyotes. And it won't just be a range/plinking gun
BCshooterFMJ
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- Location
- British Columbia
Either way you cant really go wrong brother , I am going to buy a JR carbine, just wanted to chime in and say I have done A LOT of reading on them (Since learning of their "Problems"), so far, not a single bad thing about the JR carbine in 9mm, the manufacturer even acknowledges the short comings of the .45 cal . People have had some problems on here with the T97's when it comes to feeding from certain mags, and problems with the fit of the LAR-15 mags, just search t97 and read some of the fix's people have done with them. Good luck and safe shooting.
I have a JRC in 40 S&W and I do shoot it at 100 yds but the drop is significant between 50 and 100 yds. Beyond 100 I would think it'll just drop a bunch more. It runs god and is fun to shoot, but beyond even 100 yds I think it would be a stretch.
i also have an AR (.223) and I don't really think they are that comparable ballistics wise. I often shot .223 out to 200 yds and it does it easily. It's really a matter of charge size and bullet weight.
Don't get me wrong, I like my JRC, but for what it is - a <100 yd plinker that shares mags with Glock 22s. Never shot a T97, the NR status is tempting. I'm not sure of the quality, but if it was decent, I think I'd be leaning more towards it over a JRC, ust for the longer range versatility.
i also have an AR (.223) and I don't really think they are that comparable ballistics wise. I often shot .223 out to 200 yds and it does it easily. It's really a matter of charge size and bullet weight.
Don't get me wrong, I like my JRC, but for what it is - a <100 yd plinker that shares mags with Glock 22s. Never shot a T97, the NR status is tempting. I'm not sure of the quality, but if it was decent, I think I'd be leaning more towards it over a JRC, ust for the longer range versatility.
Lobster_pot
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- On the shores of the Bay of Fundy
When u go to buy a T97 buy a LAR pistol mag and try a few of the T97 rifles for fit. If you plan on hunting coyotes then definetly go T97. The build quality is VERY surprising for norinco.
Also if your thinking T97 check out this thread. Big upgrades coming!!
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...o-Prototype-Type-97-NSR-Flat-Top-Optics-Mount
Also if your thinking T97 check out this thread. Big upgrades coming!!
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...o-Prototype-Type-97-NSR-Flat-Top-Optics-Mount
Major Sights
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- Location
- Westlock, AB
I have a T97 and have used a JR in 9mm a decent amount...
IMHO, the Jr is fun to play with for a bit, but in its Non-Restricted form I find it heavy, awkward, and bulky. Not something that I want to carry around for extensive periods of time. Yet the ammo is cheep and 10rnd mags are a plus.
I just picked up the T97 on Saturday and have 100 rounds through it. I have done NO modification to it other then cleaning it since new. I have the mag it came with as well as 2 of the black LAR-15 mags. I have had zero feeding issues out of the box. The safety and magazine release are in stupid/quirky positions but for me its a fun around the ranch possible hunting rifle not a battle rifle in its current "civilian" setup. It hardly has any recoil. I like the soft "mushy" trigger, its a bullpup rifle, not a custom target rifle with a $500 trigger and custom tuning... Its center of gravity is located behind the pistol grip so when I hold it out with one hand with no mag, it wants to tip up but is totally manageable to correct and hold it in place. When shouldered it feels like you can hold it there all day long.
Personally I would pick up the T97 if I were you because the round is more versatile as a target round or as a hunting round, and since you are in Ontario, you could essentially use that round on deer if you are confident enough in your shot (placement of your round is key). I myself took a deer last year with a Remington 700 in .223 at 120ish yards. 1 shot right through the heart and with pass through and through the leg as well. The optics issue raised by an above member can be "fixed" by T97.ca's new Flat Top Uupper, which removes the carry handle, adds a picatiny rail, and includes a non-reciprocating side charging handle. And finally it is a type of gun that REALLY pisses off liberals!
IMHO, the Jr is fun to play with for a bit, but in its Non-Restricted form I find it heavy, awkward, and bulky. Not something that I want to carry around for extensive periods of time. Yet the ammo is cheep and 10rnd mags are a plus.
I just picked up the T97 on Saturday and have 100 rounds through it. I have done NO modification to it other then cleaning it since new. I have the mag it came with as well as 2 of the black LAR-15 mags. I have had zero feeding issues out of the box. The safety and magazine release are in stupid/quirky positions but for me its a fun around the ranch possible hunting rifle not a battle rifle in its current "civilian" setup. It hardly has any recoil. I like the soft "mushy" trigger, its a bullpup rifle, not a custom target rifle with a $500 trigger and custom tuning... Its center of gravity is located behind the pistol grip so when I hold it out with one hand with no mag, it wants to tip up but is totally manageable to correct and hold it in place. When shouldered it feels like you can hold it there all day long.
Personally I would pick up the T97 if I were you because the round is more versatile as a target round or as a hunting round, and since you are in Ontario, you could essentially use that round on deer if you are confident enough in your shot (placement of your round is key). I myself took a deer last year with a Remington 700 in .223 at 120ish yards. 1 shot right through the heart and with pass through and through the leg as well. The optics issue raised by an above member can be "fixed" by T97.ca's new Flat Top Uupper, which removes the carry handle, adds a picatiny rail, and includes a non-reciprocating side charging handle. And finally it is a type of gun that REALLY pisses off liberals!
I have a Thureon Defense in 9mm and it goes well past 50 yards with accuracy, trouble free and a hoot to shoot. It will cycle anything except the Blazer Aluminum.
