T97 vs Tavor Threads Merged

I just wanted to mention that I think the riser makes that gun look a lot better. Not sure why.

Thanks for the thread.
 
Lol. Chris has been posting that for YEARS. Keep dreaming.

Bottom line is its a free market. Vendors can ask any price they want. Customers are buying them so it seems a few people disagree with your opinion.

Ps. Today is the first day of fall

North Silva wants to sell theirs. Not a reference for info about their competitors...

See below

I'd wait a few months to get it at a fair price.

Rifle clearly not worth 1.05k
 
How much did you pay from reliable? They have such great service! More than once they haven't even charged me for little gun smithing jobs.
 
As the OP stated, not many that have posted in this thread own or shot both rifles so MOST opinions stated are based on online reviews and videos (trigger, perceived build quality, handling). There's nothing wrong in speculating and basing your purchasing decision based on others' experience, but I personally feel that if possible, own and operate the rifles you want by buying them on the EE, keep the one you like, and sell the other at little or no loss. I have bought many guns over the years that I thought I would hate/love but ended up with the opposite opinion on them after actually owning them.

I don't think the Tavor is worth $3k brand new after taxes ($2k is good, like the US) but that is the going rate now for a non restricted military style black rifle in Canada. With the T97 making such a big wave though, it may drive the prices of other rifles down so that the price difference wouldn't be so substantial. I think in the end, the T97, like Norc's AR and M14s, will bring more people into the Black rifle market and that is never a bad thing.

People that want to buy the Tavor will buy them (like those that buy high end ARs), so it's not about Tavor owners being "threatened" that our expensive rifles are being challenged, but a lot of facts need to be stated because there are too many BS "opinions" from people that have not shot either. The T97's biggest selling point is its price, but a Tavor it is not. Will they perform the same on the battlefield? I think so, as long as the operators have trained extensively with them and I doubt at any point during combat they'd be thinking about how the rifle looks or how good the polymer feels. For us regularly joes and target shooters though, those latter points have more merits since we are never going to use these "in battle", and a good amount of time is spent handling and admiring them, so to some people those things matter greatly in their buying decision.

Bottom line, both have pros and cons, and you buy which ever has more pros that you feel justifiable in spending the money on. I personally liked the T97 (even pre-ordered one) and if not for a nice deal I came across on the EE for a Tavor, I'd have the T97 in my safe right now. For what it's worth, I still think the T97 is butt ugly, even more so than the Tavor ;) but I also recognize that there ARE noticeable differences in the overall quality and feel of these two rifles, and my nod goes to the Tavor.

Price dropping for firearm rarely happens in Canada.
The Canadian firearm market is just too small for that.
Yes, you see prices drop for firearms in USA...but USA also has a bigger firearm market and higher demand. Their firearm industry is very competitive...Canadian firearm industry is not competitive.
The Chinese Ar15 did not price the prices of the American Ar15 down...so what makes you think the T97 will bring the price of Tavors down?
 
Just think if in 1939, if every German infantrymen was armed with a STG44, every tanker crew manned a Tiger, every fighter pilot flew an ME262, and every bomber crew manned an AR234 - the Allies wouldn't have stood a chance.

Again, assumption based on?? Military service? History channel commentating?? Personally I think Germany would of ww2 if hitler let his generals plan the war instead of his ego...but we digress.
 
Bah whatever! Wars are now won by people living in caves and mud huts using a beat up AK and some left over artillery shell explosives wired together with a 9v battery beating the Americans with their space age weapons. Goes to show you win wars by will, not by weapons.
 
Don't hold your breath.

I'm holding my breath. Thinking most of what you say comes from a place I don't want a whiff of. Talking out of your a**. Pretty sure Can Am has their order secured.

North silva has posted that there is no frt number for Canada Ammo's supposed version. Lots of guys have been on their pre-order list fr years.
 
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Bah whatever! Wars are now won by people living in caves and mud huts using a beat up AK and some left over artillery shell explosives wired together with a 9v battery beating the Americans with their space age weapons. Goes to show you win wars by will, not by weapons.

True that will is a hugely important factor.
If the West wasn't "fighting" wars with both hands behind their backs, constrained by laughable ROE's, and respecting civil rights of traitors and terrorists, these wars would be over within a year.
 
How much did you pay from reliable? They have such great service! More than once they haven't even charged me for little gun smithing jobs.

It was $1050...I didnt know they were getting them..I just happen to go there looking for an AR combo wrench...As I walked in there were 2 guys at the register waiting to pay...I looked at the boxes they had and said to myself "those are pretty small boxes....Could it be!!" As they were leaving the store I overheard one of them saying "My wife is gonna kill me"....Sure enough I looked up on the wall and there it was....Calling my name...I happened to come into the store on the day they had them in stock...:cool: I had that feeling of Christmas morning!!
 
Has anyone tried these with gen 2 Pmags? I heard there were troubles with gen 3

For the T97 I'm guessing. Sadly I only have the Tavor but if anyone want to trade me G3 pmags for my Gen2 ones I'm happy to do that, I even have a couple still new in the bag!
 
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