Tacsol X Ring Receiver

[Sniffer]

I am considering doing a 22LR semi build and priorities are as follows:

1) Reliability

2) 25 (or bigger) round mags

3) Left side charging handle

The Tacsol X Ring receiver has caught my eye as it has the left side charging handle. Seems to be high quality and is the only receiver I have seen with the left side charging handle (I am open to ideas there are others out there).

Being a quality 10/22 receiver I suspect / hope that it will be reliable. Past regular 10/22s have been reliable so I imagine this should be the same or better.

The tricky thing is the mags. We all know the RCMP effectively neutered the 10/22 back to 10 rounds. Only solution I know of is the Tuff-22 mags which are 10/22 footprint with some kind of proprietary difference so they cannot fit in a regular 10/22.

I have read about using the Remington 597 magazines with an adaptor but the reliability sounded pretty poor.

Word on the street is that any 10/22 receiver can be modified to accept Tuff mags? Has anyone done that? I imagine it involves making a cut in the magwell to allow an extra tab on the Tuff mags to fit - is this accurate?

 

[wallz]

I went the Xring rcvr years ago when I got into building 10/22's. Mine's a take down. Loved the fact you could use the charge handle on the left side, (and still use it this way) dual sliding springs inside that run the bolt. Bough it 10 ish years back, and had to order through the US and no one in Canada carried them. It runs nice and slick just the way it is when you buy it.

Still glad I went that route, and I use it all the time. My actual grouse gun through hunting season. Nice and accurate, and Very little if any problems with it. It just works. Run it the rest of the season at the range for the kids. Countless of thousands of rounds through it now. Keep it clean and it works as intended with little to no hiccups.

One thing you learn quickly when you disassemble it is to use a bent paper clip, to hold the two springs in while you remove the bolt. Easy to shoot those springs so be prepared in an area that you can find one if it shoots off. Did this once, so you learn quickly not to let it happen. Watch a vid on this and you will see what I mean. Plus I liked the way the firing pin is set up running through the bolt and not on top.

You can modify any rcvr to take the tuff mags. Yes you would mill out the area the extra bit on the tuff mag would need to sit in the rcvr. I will not confirm, nor deny that this works. lol.

There are very few that can run left charge handle, but they are out there, just mostly in the US now and hard to come by in Canada. There is a receiver with a contraption you can mount on it to run the bolt like an ar, rear handle, but to me that just looks like ****! I'll leave it there.

I have modified plenty of neat ideas with the 10/22's when things were easier to get form the US, like last round hold open. That was slick as well, and almost better than large mags.

Hope that helps in your decision. Enjoy the build.

 

[Sniffer]

I went the Xring rcvr years ago when I got into building 10/22's. Mine's a take down. Loved the fact you could use the charge handle on the left side, (and still use it this way) dual sliding springs inside that run the bolt. Bough it 10 ish years back, and had to order through the US and no one in Canada carried them. It runs nice and slick just the way it is when you buy it.

Still glad I went that route, and I use it all the time. My actual grouse gun through hunting season. Nice and accurate, and Very little if any problems with it. It just works. Run it the rest of the season at the range for the kids. Countless of thousands of rounds through it now. Keep it clean and it works as intended with little to no hiccups.

One thing you learn quickly when you disassemble it is to use a bent paper clip, to hold the two springs in while you remove the bolt. Easy to shoot those springs so be prepared in an area that you can find one if it shoots off. Did this once, so you learn quickly not to let it happen. Watch a vid on this and you will see what I mean. Plus I liked the way the firing pin is set up running through the bolt and not on top.

You can modify any rcvr to take the tuff mags. Yes you would mill out the area the extra bit on the tuff mag would need to sit in the rcvr. I will not confirm, nor deny that this works. lol.

There are very few that can run left charge handle, but they are out there, just mostly in the US now and hard to come by in Canada. There is a receiver with a contraption you can mount on it to run the bolt like an ar, rear handle, but to me that just looks like ****! I'll leave it there.

I have modified plenty of neat ideas with the 10/22's when things were easier to get form the US, like last round hold open. That was slick as well, and almost better than large mags.

Hope that helps in your decision. Enjoy the build.

Thank you for the info, much appreciated.

I watched a clip on the Tacsol that shows disassembly using the paperclip so I know exactly what you mean.

I was curious about the Tuff mags, shame you didnt do it as that would be a cool mod and one that would very much interest me, hypothetically of course.......

And yes, the left side charging handle is very appealing. I think it is a done deal after hearing your experience.

So how do you get LRBHO? And is it possible on the Tacsol receiver? From the little bot of reading I have done on LRBHO it seems there is one company offering parts for it, one of which is a bolt which would mean no left side bolt option as I don't imagine it has a left side charging handle fitment option.

If that is the case then it is LRBHO or left side charging handle. I have seen the version with the ambi AR15 style charging handle at the rear of the action but it didnt really appeal to me, somehow it looked small and kinda useless.

 

[Sniffer]

I found this from Kidd:

https://www.kiddinnovativedesign.com/KIDD-Auto-Bolt-Release_p_55.html

I hope I am understanding this correctly - this part means the bolt will lock back on last round and then when a new mag is inserted you simply pull the bolt back a little and release to get the bolt to pick up the first round in the magazine and go into battery?



This is the part in question:



If this is the case it means it is possible to have a left side bolt and LRBHO with simple bolt release.

 

[wallz]

That is just the bolt hold open. It will hold the bolt when you physically engage the hold open, and then auto release when you pull the bolt back. The "ruger stock" way is still to physically move it out of the hold open when you pull the bolt back. It does not auto hold on the last round.

The last round hold open is totally different and needs a new bolt and some trigger work. I don't think it will work with the xring bolt.

https://cstrifles.com/10-22bs2g/

I had it working on a 10/22 build with a kidd trigger. Bought the trigger pc and the matching bolt. Worked pretty slick. I guess you could get the trigger pc and then machine the xring bolt to work. From what I recall it was just that hole in the bottom of the bolt that was different.

I heard from a friend that a dremel and a few minutes, works wonders to get the tuff mags to fit. By all means not factory looking, but free! Once you have the tuff mag, you will clearly see what needs changing. About a 1/4" x 1/4" x 1/4" pc to machine out.

What trigger are you going to use? Or are you just going to get the complete rifle? I tried a few of their lite barrels and just didn't like them. The best ones I have tried are the dlask carbon barrels, but that is a no go now that they are shutting down. I believe they used green mountain blanks, so you could get a green mountain barrel, just not carbon.

I have a volquartsen carbon on mine and it is just sweeeeeeet!.

 

[Sniffer]

That is just the bolt hold open. It will hold the bolt when you physically engage the hold open, and then auto release when you pull the bolt back. The "ruger stock" way is still to physically move it out of the hold open when you pull the bolt back. It does not auto hold on the last round.

The last round hold open is totally different and needs a new bolt and some trigger work. I don't think it will work with the xring bolt.

https://cstrifles.com/10-22bs2g/

I had it working on a 10/22 build with a kidd trigger. Bought the trigger pc and the matching bolt. Worked pretty slick. I guess you could get the trigger pc and then machine the xring bolt to work. From what I recall it was just that hole in the bottom of the bolt that was different.

I heard from a friend that a dremel and a few minutes, works wonders to get the tuff mags to fit. By all means not factory looking, but free! Once you have the tuff mag, you will clearly see what needs changing. About a 1/4" x 1/4" x 1/4" pc to machine out.

What trigger are you going to use? Or are you just going to get the complete rifle? I tried a few of their lite barrels and just didn't like them. The best ones I have tried are the dlask carbon barrels, but that is a no go now that they are shutting down. I believe they used green mountain blanks, so you could get a green mountain barrel, just not carbon.

I have a volquartsen carbon on mine and it is just sweeeeeeet!.

That is actually the one that caught my eye. What length did you get?

Still unsure about what direction I am headed in as it seems that many parts don't work with other parts so there are a lot of compromises. Not against the idea of a complete rifle but I haven't seen one that ticks all my boxes hence the lego approach.

Want a good trigger so that probably rules out some of the less well supported platforms. Ideally an enclosed forend (which is not real common with 10/22 chassis it seems) but even that makes it hard to remove / clean.

 

[wallz]

Yea, I am not into the enclosed forearms at all, on any rifles. Just something about them doesn't tickly my fancy, so can't help you out there on the route to take. You could always look at the 2 pc forearms, where the top pc is screwed down onto the main forearm. Or try and copy what XLR has done with the carbon one on the fierce mountain reaper. https://www.precisionoptics.net/category_s/1041.htm
I think you can purchase a carbon forestock and then get a 3D printed adapter to have it fit onto the stock.

Something like this and have a top 3D printed for it.: https://rdsc.ca/black-collar-arms-piglet-10-22-takedown-chassis-hardcoat-anodized-black.html

Or find one of these: https://alexandersstore.com/product/archangel-10-22-ars-rifle-pkg-tan/

I have the 16" takedown volquartsen lite carbon barrel. I chose that one because of the scope rail on the barrel. Doesn't matter how many times I take it apart, it is always the same when put back together.

https://store.theshootingcentre.com...d-forend-for-ruger-10-22-takedown-black-ends/

I would love to go shorter to 12" but the cost just doesn't make sense at this point. I believe you need over 10" to actually hunt with it in BC, so I have to stay above that. The next one down is 8" or 9", which would put me just under what is min for hunting, so it is a no go.