Tactical Innovations 10/22 25 rd mags

I guess it's hit and miss with all 10/22 mags. I have no experience with BX-25 or TI mags

I have experience with the HC3R (I can never remember this name) mags and they work great....but I find loading them using the loading clips to be a pain in the ass and always screw it up somehow so I always end up loading the normal way which defeats the purpose of this mag.

I've tried the Black Dog drum mag and it's such a chore to load that I don't even bother with it. takes an hour to load and a minute to unload it plus it's bulky and clumsy if you have an older 10/22 without the extended mag release

I like the Butler Creek steel lips clear mags but the HC3R seems to be a bit more reliable

I like the 10 rd Ruger rotary mags the best......only problem.....they only hold 10 rounds. but they're 100% reliable. still looking for that 25 rd mag that's 100% reliable

with CCI mini mags every mag works

with Winchester M-22 ammo I get failure to feed in all mags except the Ruger rotary mags.....this is in three different 10/22's

anyone else have problems with Winchester M-22's?
 
wow.....that's simply amazing. probably the cure for most 25 rd feeding issues

someone should send Ruger a link to this modification, as well as the bolt hold modification, the plastic buffer modification

it only took how many years for Ruger to put an extended mag release on the 10/22?








ceezed said:
I'll be listing 2 of these TI25 Composite BNIB on the EE tomorrow once I pick them up from the post office. A very helpful thread (thanks again G37!) on a wobbly magazine fix has resolved my BC mag issues. Perhaps this fix will work for you:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...wobble-I-ve-got-a-fix-for-it-VER-2-0-(POST-1)

If not, anyone who's interested can check out my add tomorrow.
Cheers.
Click to expand...
 
grandmasterP said:
another solution to magazine wobble on youtube....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9rWr0Ry7NE
Click to expand...
I wonder if a Timmy trigger group would solve the problem. I removed the chassis and barrel , so that all I had left was the trigger group and receiver. I then tryed both the Ruger and BC mags in the receiver. The Ruger mag feeds the cartridge nice and straight . The BC mag feeds the cartridge all wigglely.
 
Last edited:
does the Timmy Trigger group have a stronger mag release spring?




Brianma65 said:
I wonder if a Timmy trigger group would solve the problem. I removed the chassis and barrel , so that all I had left was the trigger group and receiver. I then tryed both the Ruger and BC mags in the receiver. The Ruger mag feeds the cartridge nice and straight . The BC mag feeds the cartridge all wigglely.
Click to expand...
 
I tried my butler creek mags again and discovered if i hold them in front and keep them from tilting forward they run 100%

if i let them tilt forward slightly I get misfeeds and all kinds of problems, the mags even drop out by themselves

the 10/22 system of holding the mag is not very strong and the feed angle of most 25 rounders are steeper than the rotary mags so the slightest tilt of the longer mags puts the feed angle too steep and create a jam
 
grandmasterP said:
I tried my butler creek mags again and discovered if i hold them in front and keep them from tilting forward they run 100%

if i let them tilt forward slightly I get misfeeds and all kinds of problems, the mags even drop out by themselves

the 10/22 system of holding the mag is not very strong and the feed angle of most 25 rounders are steeper than the rotary mags so the slightest tilt of the longer mags puts the feed angle too steep and create a jam
Click to expand...
Yes and if you take notice the BC mag is about 2 mm shorter,and that's the prob,I like the fix in the you tube vid or maybe a stronger mag release pin. I'm now curious if all after market mags are a bit shorter? I think that is the biggest problem. Anyway I'm trying to order a few diff mags from Irunguns tomorrow .
 
Brianma65 said:
Yes and if you take notice the BC mag is about 2 mm shorter,and that's the prob,I like the fix in the you tube vid or maybe a stronger mag release pin. I'm now curious if all after market mags are a bit shorter? I think that is the biggest problem. Anyway I'm trying to order a few diff mags from Irunguns tomorrow .
Click to expand...
well, irunguns has a lot of different 1022 mags, but it will take about 2 months to get any. So I did a little adjustment with my BC mags, they now fit as snug as a bug in a rug. I'll be trying them tommorow morning , hopefully they work better.
 
ok, got some TI 25 mags.....I had to see what the hype is all about

they are a pain in the ass to set up. in theory they would work perfect. but in reality.....not so good. if you could just set them up till they feed perfect it'd be great. problem is you're confined to the dimensions of the magwell and the steep angle of the feedramp means you can only adjust so far within the magwell to try straighten the feed angle.

If you raise the back of the mag.....the bolt will drag on the feed lips. I'm getting lead shavings from the bottom of the cartridge when feeding even after the maximum amount of adjustment. after hours of trying to adjust the mags I've come to the conclusion these are absolute junk.

the instructions state that there needs to be some play in order for them to work.....that's an understatement!! the feed angle is so steep that you have to set them up sloppy as hell. too tight means they will not feed or eject properly

maybe after a month of tinkering and a few wasted bricks of ammo I can get them to work.....

to me they're no better than Butler Creek mags. the adjustment feature sounded great....till I tried to adjust them. not so fun and lots of wasted ammo

I don't recommend these mags. I think I'm gonna stick with the rotary 10 rounders. at least they work 100%

if I get them to work reliably I will post my success. it might take a while. lol
 
I never seen those before but they look like Battledyne? mags.....I don't know if that's the right name

I wish there was a place you could go try them all out before buying. I just go by all the reviews I can read online. almost everyone said the TI25 and the BX-25 are the best you can get so I had to try it.

I'm so happy when I can get through a mag with no jams. so far the Butler Creek is the most reliable for me....that is as long as you don't accidentally bump the mag forward a bit. so if you hold the front it's ok







Brianma65 said:
View attachment 13915Have you heard of these?
Click to expand...
 
There not battle dyne but looks similar. I put some JBWeld on my BC mag , it fits really snug, I shaved to same size as origional 10 rnd mag and then gave it a coat of clear nail polish. I can now reliably load and fire 20 rnds of winchester super x. With 25 rnds the first five didn't chamber and got bent. I'm going to do the opposite on another bx mag and try that also. Even though they fit snug , I think the feed lips are a little off skew.
 
those are Promags. I have a couple and they work ok, I do not use the sleeves on mine. took a couple of mags full to break them in, after that they work well for me. I am shooting elcheapo fed blue box bulk ammo.

grandmasterP said:
I never seen those before but they look like Battledyne? mags.....I don't know if that's the right name

I wish there was a place you could go try them all out before buying. I just go by all the reviews I can read online. almost everyone said the TI25 and the BX-25 are the best you can get so I had to try it.

I'm so happy when I can get through a mag with no jams. so far the Butler Creek is the most reliable for me....that is as long as you don't accidentally bump the mag forward a bit. so if you hold the front it's ok
Click to expand...
 
lol....I haven't given up yet. still ####ing around with them. I'm gonna ignore the instructions and what other people say to do. they say to adjust all the screws so that there's 4 points of contact to the receiver at all times.

that's impossible because you kinda want it to teeter totter so the round can wiggle it's way into the chamber since the feed angle is so steep. I've got the lead shavings down to a minimum but can't eliminate it altogether. remember....you only have as much room as the mag well will allow you to work with.

also the instructions say the receiver has to be out of the stock to make adjustments. well if I did that I'd have the gun apart each time I turn one screw....which is about 100 times now. doing two mags.....and we all know how the pins all fall out when you take a 10/22 apart. I put tape on each side to keep the pins from falling out

I only took the receiver out of the stock the first few times to get the initial adjustments, after that I did the fine tuning with the gun intact. I pity the fool that is trying to set up more than two mags

the amount of work trying to tune these things is not worth the high price you pay. somebody said that earlier

another thing on their website they say the mags come adjusted from the factory and can be used right out of the bag. that's a lie.....all the screws were completely screwed in except one on both mags. nowhere near being adjusted

and yet another thing I don't understand.....a 10/22 receiver is not the same height on both sides of the magwell. if you look at your factory Ruger mags and Butler Creek mags and all others......the left side of the mag is higher than the right side. but on the TI25 mags, they made the left and right side the same height which looks stupid cause you have the two left side screws sticking up higher than the right side which just doesn't look right

so far, to get 25 rd mags to work properly you just need some zip ties, epoxy, tape, screws, a bit of filing.......Bill Ruger was a genius. he created a gun that works perfect with the intended rotary mag and sucks with anything else!





Brianma65 said:
Well I'm selling my BC mags, I've had enough of that, my mossberg 715 was more reliable, I'll try those pro mags next I guess.
Click to expand...
 
also the instructions say the receiver has to be out of the stock to make adjustments. well if I did that I'd have the gun apart each time I turn one screw....which is about 100 times now.
Click to expand...

The firearm will function, shoot, when not in a stock. But I never removed the stock to adjust them either.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom