Tactical Semi - Gas or Inertia?

I'd be willing to give the Breda B12 a look, its basically a slightly more refined Benelli M2 that supposedly takes all M2 accessories except for the charging handle.

Its also gives you what may be the best array of sighting options available in a tactical type shotgun, as you can have a vent rib with fiber option front bead with a flip-up rear sight, as well as a detachable LPA ghost ring AND a picatinny rail.

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870P, thank you for sharing!
Now to do more research on that beauty.
Who knows, I may end up with a few new shotguns!
 
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I prefer gas guns. Softer shooting faster with lighter loads. Better balanced to me and more reliable in my experience. The only reason i dont own a 1301 is im not a fan of the stepped rib
 
Inertia guns are not reliable if not shouldered perfectly and they kick much harder than gas operated. More like a pump.
Gas operated is much more reliable if not shouldered firmly and have soft recoil.

Inertia driven guns run cleaner than gas.

I had a pair of inertia driven Berettas that I sold off to get Benellis which I sold off to get gas guns. My right arm was going numb from the recoil of the inertia actions. Now I run a 1301 and a couple 1100s for comfort. No regrets.

My 1301 is my all time favorite all around shot gun.
 
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brybenn said:
I prefer gas guns. Softer shooting faster with lighter loads. Better balanced to me and more reliable in my experience. The only reason i dont own a 1301 is im not a fan of the stepped rib
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You mean a vent rib?

I think that vent ribs make for the best overall sighting system you can get on a shotgun, especially in conjunction with a fiber optic bead.

I'm not sure if I'd want one on a gun that's going to be banged around a lot, but they rock otherwise.
 
I also prefer vent rib since it stiffens the barrel.
How have the Remington Versamax guns been holding up?
So far the Benelli M4 is off my list and it's down to the 1301 Tactical Gen 2 vs Versamax R12.
I love everything about the 1301 but the added capacity of the Versamax can't be ignored.
 
Vent rib is last on my list of sighting options for a shotgun, especially a tactical shotgun. Rifle sights or just a plain raised bead is better for me than a vent rib to be honest, to each their own though.
 
Butcherbill said:
Vent rib is last on my list of sighting options for a shotgun, especially a tactical shotgun. Rifle sights or just a plain raised bead is better for me than a vent rib to be honest, to each their own though.
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There's a reason that most competitive shotgunners run a vent rib, even some of the tactical gurus like them.

Matt Haught at 1.54:


A vent rib gives you an excellent raised platform for a bead, plus allows you to attach a rear sight if needed.
 
To be honest I’d like to have a use for my vent rib barrel, I’ve thought about adding a set of xs sight adjustable sights to it. The other issue is the length of the barrel but that is unrelated to the rib, maybe if I was into more clay sports or waterfowl hunting I would use my 28” barrels more.

Edit: I can see how the vent rib gives you a good mounting base for a different sighting system, I follow Vang Comp on Instagram and quite like their shorter vent rib barrels with express rifle sights mounted on the rib like in the video you linked.
 
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sixty9santa said:
I also prefer vent rib since it stiffens the barrel.
How have the Remington Versamax guns been holding up?
So far the Benelli M4 is off my list and it's down to the 1301 Tactical Gen 2 vs Versamax R12.
I love everything about the 1301 but the added capacity of the Versamax can't be ignored.
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You can always get the Nordic +2 extension for the 1301, and it will still come up 2" shorter in overall length than the R12, 37.5" vs 39.5". And given the price of the R12, I highly doubt it would match Beretta quality.
 
I'd be hesitant to buy a Remington semi right now, given their latest bankruptcy woes.
 
I just bought a benelli super sport inertia, it’s unreal to shoot. Never had any feeding issues so far and there is no kick. Probably ran 250 shells through on its maiden voyage.
 
Butcherbill said:
To be honest I’d like to have a use for my vent rib barrel, I’ve thought about adding a set of xs sight adjustable sights to it. The other issue is the length of the barrel but that is unrelated to the rib, maybe if I was into more clay sports or waterfowl hunting I would use my 28” barrels more.

Edit: I can see how the vent rib gives you a good mounting base for a different sighting system, I follow Vang Comp on Instagram and quite like their shorter vent rib barrels with express rifle sights mounted on the rib like in the video you linked.
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Ya, guys need to think twice before committing to any kind of ghost ring sights on a shotgun. It really limits what the shotgun can be effectively used for. Try shooting a round of skeet with ghost ring sights and you'll quickly know what I mean.

I have a 590A1 with ghost ring sights that some steroided tactical type youtuber talked me into, and cool as it may look, I never ever use them. I added an Armson OEG fiber optic red dot and never looked back.

Ghost ring sights are only good for slow moving or static targets.
 
Maple57 said:
Ya, guys need to think twice before committing to any kind of ghost ring sights on a shotgun. It really limits what the shotgun can be effectively used for. Try shooting a round of skeet with ghost ring sights and you'll quickly know what I mean.

I have a 590A1 with ghost ring sights that some steroided tactical type youtuber talked me into, and cool as it may look, I never ever use them. I added an Armson OEG fiber optic red dot and never looked back.

Ghost ring sights are only good for slow moving or static targets.
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I’m not a huge fan or ghost rings either to be honest, I’ve tried a few different things over the years. Bead, raised bead, ghost rings, red dot, rifle sights, vent rib. The plain old raised bead or rifle sights are the best for me, I don’t shoot clays more than once or twice a year and my shotgun hunting is mainly grouse with the odd rabbit in the mix.

I think if I was shooting more clays or was into waterfowl hunting I’d probably enjoy using a vent rib and a longer barrel, I’m much happier with a 12.5” to a 20” barrel for hiking around the bush shooting grouse and rabbits. All of my barrels have chokes so I’m able to pattern properly for my use, shorter barrels are just more versatile in the areas I hunt or use a shotgun. I do have a Cooey84 with a 30” full choked barrel that I plan to walk trails with this year, it’s just a bead front sight which is perfect.
 
Thank you everyone for all the input, I've settled on the Beretta 1301.
I'll likely end up owning a an inertia gun down the line.
Now how to convince my wife that we need a new gun...lol!
 
Came here researching this Breda B12 that caught my eye. Mostly to find out whether it’s Italian made or a rebadged Turk.

The Beretta 1301 comp I’ve had for a few years has become my favourite skeet gun. Quick, light, and low recoil.

I have a 28” A5, and I’m not quite so fond of the abrupt violence of the inertia action. It sounds like a hammer ringing an anvil and has a sharper recoil.

So why was I looking at Breda? I just have a weakness for riot guns...


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