back to original question - where is it written about 6mm being the smallest caliber for deer hunt? I had to re-read annual hunting hand out. All it says there regarding legality of use is "rimfire" and "cntre fire". To me it sounds like 223 is perfectly legal deer gun, and it is. I suggest you drop me the link or deer will continue dying from "illegal" 223 without knowing it. Talking about legality again, 243 is legal for moose and some people use on a moose - that is a bit too small. Some deer on west coast is small like coyote, 22 would probably drop it just as good.
Tacticool Deer Rifle
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So, it's hard to kill a deer with 5.56? I not trying to argue, I just don't know first thing about hunting, is all. I'm just thinking the reason why Gov't doesn allow 5.56 hunting deer, is maybe it's humane reason...like you can't kill with first shot, so it might suffer, or whatever... I don't know.
For me getting an M1A would be a no brainer. Great rifle, accurate, and will knock down just about anything.
If you are seriously contemplating using the rifle defensively (against any animals) then DO NOT get a 9mm Cx4 unless the biggest threat you will face is a Squirrel Rebellion.
Food for thought: http://www.arcent.army.mil/cflcc_today/2005/january/images/afghan_patrol1.jpg
If you are seriously contemplating using the rifle defensively (against any animals) then DO NOT get a 9mm Cx4 unless the biggest threat you will face is a Squirrel Rebellion.
Food for thought: http://www.arcent.army.mil/cflcc_today/2005/january/images/afghan_patrol1.jpg
personaly the CX4 wouldnt be my first choice but as a CO you will want something that is capable of dispatching all manner of game in your prospective area, wait is the rifle for the course or the job?
umm from what i gather it is for the course, meh either way if your going deer hunting and you Need to have a "tacticool" look a tricked out M14, a sported or full wood enfield, or combat short shottie with the M4 style stock and mag extenstion and al lthe other goodies would be adaquote.
if you want really Tacticool try something like this
umm from what i gather it is for the course, meh either way if your going deer hunting and you Need to have a "tacticool" look a tricked out M14, a sported or full wood enfield, or combat short shottie with the M4 style stock and mag extenstion and al lthe other goodies would be adaquote.
if you want really Tacticool try something like this
22lr said:
its an energy thing. a 5.56 doesnt have the umpff other rounds have. Yes, anything is possible, so yes it may work fine. The issue is that they travel so fast and have a low sectional density that they can pencil an animal and it may take a while for it to die. This is considered in humaine.
If you know how and where to place the shot.. ya of course its going to work just fine.
but I dont understand the original post:
where does it say, or when did they tell you that a requisite of the course is going on a hunt with a newly purchased rifle?
Doesnt sound right.
If your only concerns are over 6mm (regardless of power) and the Looking-Cool-Factor, and if money ain't an issue, get a FN2000 or a Tavor and get it rebarrelled in 6.8 SPC.
Aside that, my pick would probably be a non-rest CZ 858 (is that what they're called?)
Aside that, my pick would probably be a non-rest CZ 858 (is that what they're called?)
Slowbalt said:
I am everywhere...
Fortunately for the hunters in your province the number of CO's that make it through this course and actually get hired are miniscule.... about 2%.
I personally believe that your chances of making it with your attitude towards suitable firearms for this course are somewhat less than that!
I like black rifles... but none of the CO's I know carry one in the field for hunting!
Ask your Dad to buy you an R-1 in 30-06... he prolly won't mind if he is willing to waste 20 large educating you for an unattainable job. Nothing is cooler than a Benelli Semi in a Hunting rifle and this will impress the hell out of your classmates. I have a feeling that no matter what you buy your Instructors will not be impressed.JBRO
If you ever do become a CO, it would be your job to charge the stupid jackass that shoots a deer with a 9mm pistol caliber CX4 with cruelty.
Your entire post seems immature and ridiculous but the fact that you think a pistol caliber rifle would make a good deer gun just blows me away. I don't know if 6mm is a mininum, but if it is in your province it is to ensure that game is taken cleanly, something a 9mm will not do with a deer.
Your entire post seems immature and ridiculous but the fact that you think a pistol caliber rifle would make a good deer gun just blows me away. I don't know if 6mm is a mininum, but if it is in your province it is to ensure that game is taken cleanly, something a 9mm will not do with a deer.
FN-49 Heretics! Avaliable in 7mm, .30-06, and the one true calibre. . . 8mm!
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl09-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl09-e.htm
You could also get a Remington 7600 Police in .308. It's a pump so you can use higher cap mags. Trick it out to something like this:
It has a Mesa Tactical Remi 870 pistol grip adater, an ACE folding stock mechanism with an ACE skeleton stock. It also has a rail for mounting a forward vertical grip. Also shown is an Eagle 10 round mag.
It has a Mesa Tactical Remi 870 pistol grip adater, an ACE folding stock mechanism with an ACE skeleton stock. It also has a rail for mounting a forward vertical grip. Also shown is an Eagle 10 round mag.
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Definitely go with a PTRS
Stevo said:
X2 I don't care if you don't want to hunt or be a hunter but a CO needs to understand the wildlife, the habitat AND the people who use the land, which a large % are HUNTERS! There is a reason they are asking you to bring a proper HUNTING rifle, Wake TFU. Your attitude stinks and I hope this thread makes you re-think why you have chosen your career choice.
If someone showed up on “wildlife protection course” that I was teaching with a “tacticool” rifle without knowing if it was the right rifle for the job I would ##### slap them home to mommy.
In a nutshell kid you have zero understanding of the job you think you want.
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ok, some people here have problems reading and i have problems explaining the reason for this thread.... so i will try once again :
1- I DO have interest in hunting!!! But I can understand if some people consider predators, bear, small game and migratory birds hunt as not "real hunting".
2- I did say I was looking into the CX4 Storm. Cause I really was, never said it was going to be 9mm as it wasn't in anyway considered ; my choice was .45ACP. Now I do not wish to go on the debate of handguns for hunting, as the answer is already here : for some types of game YES for most NO. But if someone has defenite evidence that a .45 bullet comming out of a rifle barrel can't drop a deer at 75yrds please foward it to me!!
3- Powerfull or not, it will not drop that deer, as I will shoot only to kill a wounded animal at point blank range. This or my life will be directly threatened. We will be in 4 people groups, and chances are I will be with 3 guys who will actually be wanting to kill it so i will just let them go.
Thanks for all the relevant posts. Hope this clears some things up.
1- I DO have interest in hunting!!! But I can understand if some people consider predators, bear, small game and migratory birds hunt as not "real hunting".
2- I did say I was looking into the CX4 Storm. Cause I really was, never said it was going to be 9mm as it wasn't in anyway considered ; my choice was .45ACP. Now I do not wish to go on the debate of handguns for hunting, as the answer is already here : for some types of game YES for most NO. But if someone has defenite evidence that a .45 bullet comming out of a rifle barrel can't drop a deer at 75yrds please foward it to me!!
3- Powerfull or not, it will not drop that deer, as I will shoot only to kill a wounded animal at point blank range. This or my life will be directly threatened. We will be in 4 people groups, and chances are I will be with 3 guys who will actually be wanting to kill it so i will just let them go.
Thanks for all the relevant posts. Hope this clears some things up.
Ok, I think that you've managed to explain yourself a little better.
Like I said, I don't know about a 6mm minimum in your area, but if that is the case than I'd check into whether it specifies a 6mm or greater rifle round, as that is obviously the intent of such a restriction.
You know what I think would make a great little bush rifle? Not very "tacticool", but I'd use a 94 trapper in .30-30 with a scout scope mounted. You could always parkerize it to make it more "tactical", and put on a synthetic stock, something I've had pictured in my head since I dreamed up my perfect little bush gun.
Like I said, I don't know about a 6mm minimum in your area, but if that is the case than I'd check into whether it specifies a 6mm or greater rifle round, as that is obviously the intent of such a restriction.
You know what I think would make a great little bush rifle? Not very "tacticool", but I'd use a 94 trapper in .30-30 with a scout scope mounted. You could always parkerize it to make it more "tactical", and put on a synthetic stock, something I've had pictured in my head since I dreamed up my perfect little bush gun.
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