Tacticool Savage 93r .17 and some good results... I think... what do you think?

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I love the look of Boyds tacticool stock for the 93... so I picked one up and im super happy with it. I think it looks sweet, especially with the blued metal and heavy barrel. I also really like how it feels. The shape is such an improvement over any of the other 93 stocks Ive tried. I also really like the texture of the finish. However, I feel like the finish is maybe a little thin. I dont know for sure, its just a feeling after holding the stock. I hope it doesnt easily chip. The 93r .17hmr Action literally FELL into this stock with no issues at all. I already had inletted metal so it just swapped right over. Heres a pic of the setup.

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After my first outing with this setup im very happy with the results. I think I could benefit from some upgraded glass (currently just a simmons 6-18X40) but shooting Hornady 17g Vmax at 100 yards resulted in these groups... this was off my bipod up front and a rear bag from a bench.

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Its true... the Tacticool stock is NOT available to canada for some reason. its the only 93 stock thats not. I travel to the US often... nuff said.

22lrguy, got your PM, just crafting my reply now. hehe. I bought 10 boxes of the 20gr hp's at a gun show in norland a few weeks ago. I regret it. They dont shoot nearly as well at 100 yards as the 17grain seems to. Maybe I just need to spend more time with those rounds...
 
Yup, realistically that's pretty good shooting.
Don't be discouraged by stuff you'll read posted on the 'net. I've got the same rifle in .22WMR and get about the same results...1"-1.5" (say an average of just a bit over 1MOA). Pretty much any legitimate gun tests you read on these rounds will say that is 'good shootin'.
But you'll find numerous posts from people claiming their out of the box Savage/Marlin, with a cheap Tasco 4x scope is shooting 1/2" groups at 100yds.
Just too bad they never shoot at my range so I could find out what I'm doing wrong ;-)
I called Boyds a month or so ago. They used to bring in the Tacticool stock...but new Canadian regs actually state that nothing specified as 'tactical' can be imported if it's an integral part of the firearm (which is why for example a foregrip can be called tactical...it's an add on, not an integral part).
Boyds is trying to get around it...the fellow I talked to said they were even considering adding another line for Canada...the same stock with a different name.
 
bobtodrick said:
Yup, realistically that's pretty good shooting.
Don't be discouraged by stuff you'll read posted on the 'net. I've got the same rifle in .22WMR and get about the same results...1"-1.5" (say an average of just a bit over 1MOA). Pretty much any legitimate gun tests you read on these rounds will say that is 'good shootin'.
But you'll find numerous posts from people claiming their out of the box Savage/Marlin, with a cheap Tasco 4x scope is shooting 1/2" groups at 100yds.
Just too bad they never shoot at my range so I could find out what I'm doing wrong ;-)
I called Boyds a month or so ago. They used to bring in the Tacticool stock...but new Canadian regs actually state that nothing specified as 'tactical' can be imported if it's an integral part of the firearm (which is why for example a foregrip can be called tactical...it's an add on, not an integral part).
Boyds is trying to get around it...the fellow I talked to said they were even considering adding another line for Canada...the same stock with a different name.
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Well said. My .22WMR (with me @ the trigger) struggles to keep 5 rounds in a 1" circle, period. In fact, best I've done is 4/5. There is a part of me that wonders if I should get it bedded...but then I wonder how much of the accuracy limitation has to do with the ammo itself? Bedding an action wouldn't help that. Results on paper and internet bragging rights aside, the gun has sent a couple dozen groundhogs to the great beyond, and misses are exceedingly rare. I did ONCE shoot a VERY tiny group using my CZ452 HMR and 20gr. Hornady ammo @ 100 meters. 1/2", probably smaller. I stress "once" because I never shot it (or anything) that well before, or since. Closest would be my .223 on a very steady rest/concrete bench. A 5/8" group @ 100 meters.

Most of the time, my target boards look like they were hit by a shotgun. :)
 
.22LRGUY, here's an example of a 'realistic' assessment of the capabilities of the .22WMR and .17HMR: http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HMR_22WMR.htm
I've had the same experience as yourself...I'll get 3 or 4 shots that can be covered by a quarter...but often there's that one shot that will land and inch away and open up the group to 1.5"
I've read a number of articles (Guns & Ammo and Gun Tests come to mind) that say it is an ammo issue. If you have a .22LR you have your choice of umpteen different rounds to choose from...it's just a matter of finding one that really works with your gun. But .22WMR and .17HMR...you have what...maybe a dozen rounds to choose from.
I envy the LR guys to some extent. My sons have XT-22 Marlins. We went through a slew of ammo and found that with the RWS Target (not inexpensive unfortunatley) both guns are true 1MOA shooters on a calm day.
But no one makes this quality of ammo for the hot rimfire loads.
The saving grace is that most varmints you want to shoot at 100-150yds (the forte of the WMR & HMR) have kill zones that are at least a couple of inches. An acquaintance of mine (a farmer) has a problem with coyotes and he seldom fails to drop them with his WMR.
 
bobtodrick said:
.22LRGUY, here's an example of a 'realistic' assessment of the capabilities of the .22WMR and .17HMR: http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HMR_22WMR.htm
I've had the same experience as yourself...I'll get 3 or 4 shots that can be covered by a quarter...but often there's that one shot that will land and inch away and open up the group to 1.5"
I've read a number of articles (Guns & Ammo and Gun Tests come to mind) that say it is an ammo issue. If you have a .22LR you have your choice of umpteen different rounds to choose from...it's just a matter of finding one that really works with your gun. But .22WMR and .17HMR...you have what...maybe a dozen rounds to choose from.
I envy the LR guys to some extent. My sons have XT-22 Marlins. We went through a slew of ammo and found that with the RWS Target (not inexpensive unfortunatley) both guns are true 1MOA shooters on a calm day.
But no one makes this quality of ammo for the hot rimfire loads.
The saving grace is that most varmints you want to shoot at 100-150yds (the forte of the WMR & HMR) have kill zones that are at least a couple of inches. An acquaintance of mine (a farmer) has a problem with coyotes and he seldom fails to drop them with his WMR.
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I hear you. A bitter pill to swallow indeed. :) On one hand, I feel like I've put enough time/money/practice into my 93FV to make it an MOA shooter, but on the other.....everything I've hunted with it has dropped in it's tracks. I suppose one can't ask for more than that! Did drive me a little nuts zeroing the scope @ 100 though, had to do it at about 60 yards. ON that occasion, I had every CCI/Remington/Winchester/Hornady .22WMR offering I could get my hands on too. Winchester Supreme the worst...Hornday 30gr. the best. See my avatar. :)

Bottom line~the quest for an MOA rimfire gun should not start with anything .22WMR. :)
 
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