Tactics for Shooting a Monster Black Bear

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I'm in Northern Ontario and have shot quite a few bears over the years but haven't shot any real monsters. Do any of you have any suggestions that would help put a true monster in front of me? I'm planning on hunting with a rifle over bait. Looking for experienced advice please.

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I'm in Northern Ontario and have shot quite a few bears over the years but haven't shot any real monsters. Do any of you have any suggestions that would help put a true monster in front of me? I'm planning on hunting with a rifle over bait. Looking for experienced advice please.

Thanks,

SS1

Go to Alberta, lol seriously, lived there my whole life and recently moved to Ontario, I laugh every time someone claims "monster" out here and it's barely 250lbs. I know it's not a lot of help but I truely believe Ontario is not the place to find a monster bear if your that's all you seek.
 
Go to Alberta, lol seriously, lived there my whole life and recently moved to Ontario, I laugh every time someone claims "monster" out here and it's barely 250lbs. I know it's not a lot of help but I truely believe Ontario is not the place to find a monster bear if your that's all you seek.

Lol...
 

Yep , 625 pounder on an MTO scale taken up by Kap last year . I have a Power Hang 440 scale that's proven accurate at 300 pounds that i've maxed out twice in the last 5 years so at a guess one was about 475 with the second about 500 . Big bears aren't that rare in northwestern Ontario , it's just that there are so many smaller bears . Records are set on skull size but i don't know anyone outside of the occasional American hunter who would bother . Not many will bother on scaled weight over estimated weight unless it's really big and bears around here start to get really big at about 400 pounds to get bragging rights . My son took one two years ago at 410 pounds gutted . We didn't weigh the guts .
 
Most would like to think that the biggest bears come out of the uninhabited boreal or mountainous areas of Canada's north when nothing could be further from the truth. Most B&C record bears come out of Pennsylvania, which also has some of the heaviest, along with North Carolina. A lot of big bears are shot in Wisconsin (just south of NW Ontario) every year as well.
The only thing I've really found over the years is that in order to have a shot at big bears, have lots of meat at the bait and keep sows with yearling cubs happy and well fed in late May/early June when they're breeding. And place your bait in a heavily wooded area.
 
As for tactics for bigger bear , myself and my son will run 20 baits over 40 miles of logging road . Sometimes we'd haul in sand to get print size . Check the scat size . Put KFC oil on styrofoam blocks to measure between the K9s . Get burlap bags and hang bait 8 feet up a tree above your bait site and slash the bag so it will fall appart when a bear tries to take it down . Often you'll get scratch marks on the tree indicating how big the bears are and now we don't do a lot of that since we bought 12 trail cams . When the hunt is upon us we'll narrow 20 baits down to 4 or 6 giving us 2 or 3 baits each where the biggest bears are hitting . Where we are , Thunder Bay there is about a 5 week window of oppertunity to glass bears in the spring between the time they come out of their dens until the foliage is so heavy and thick that glassing is impossible . Go to the MNR and they'll have maps of the fresh cuts as that's where you want to be glassing and it's pretty easy to find bear in that window . If you get a heavy bear hitting , feed him heavy and not that popcorn shyte . They need a wide variety of nutrients so give it to them . If you feed what they need they'll stay and give you the oppertunity . Popcorn shyte will hold them for maybe a couple of days and then they'll be gone looking for the nutrients they need . When we getting bigger , interesting bears hitting we'll feed about 40 pounds every second day and then every day when the hunt is on . If there are streams and creeks going through fresh cuts in the spring before the heavy foliage is on you may want to take your canoe . Pipelines and tower lines are very good for glassing when the bears are eating the fresh green shoots in the spring . If you put just a couple of baits out you're relying on luck . The more baits you start with the faster you shift the odds in your favor and then cut the number back and feed the big ones heavy . We start to bait about 3 weeks before the hunt , if we haven't already glassed and shot . Talk to the local farmers . Bears love apples , grain , corn and veggies and most farmers don't love bears . When the rural folks get to know you they'll call you when they have problem bears . I've been doing this for just about 60 years and i've never found one single Ontario black bear that would eat a fish . Stop and talk to the rural folks not just farmers . Many don't own guns and don't hunt and get freaked out when there are bears around and the kids have to walk out to the school bus . Hope some of that helps .
 
What's a good size bear for Ontario or wherever. In BC. A bear measured 6ft from nose to tail when skinner is considered a good mature bear. A 6ft or larger black bear is available to anyone willing to put in a bit of time. There are larger bears, up to 7 or more feet. We don't typically grade via weight because sales are not available and a fall bear will dwarf a spring bear for weight while still being the same length.

Some people "square" the bear but it seems more of an American thing.

Skull measurement is skull measurement.

The further north you go the black bears get smaller or non existent except in areas close to the coast/ near salmon streams.
 
I came across a Monster Black bear well hunting on Haida Gwaii about 17 years ago it had to be at lease 800 lbs maybe 900 lbs but one thing for sure he was a Monster I was hunting with a longbow I got within 15 feet I had full draw on him wen he stood up on back legs and grunted at me and wonder off into the bush
All I kept thinking what the hell am I gonna do with all that bear meat I was just looking fore a nice young one and not a Monster bear
Haida gwaii and the coast the Bears are bigger because I don't hibernate during the winter and spend the winter feeding off of clams and crabs extra so if your looking for a realy big black bears head for the coast
 
The further north you go the black bears get smaller or non existent except in areas close to the coast/ near salmon streams.

In my experience in NE and North Central BC there are some large berry fed black bears. Their numbers are pretty far from non existent too.
 
The real trick to taking a big mature bear over bait is getting him to come in during shooting light. Like most game animals, bears don't get big being stupid.

Real big bears leave sigh for other big bears.

Watch for trees with the bark raked off up high and small poplars, usually under an inch in my experience, bit off leaving just the trunk.

Both are bears telling other bears how big they are as a warning. I have only seen this done by really big black bears.

Oh and if you go into your bait and the 45 gallon barrel full of meat is gone but the chain is still hanging around the tree...and you find the barrel buried 100yds away...you likely have a good one coming lol.
 
First you have to find them. Not sure what the baiting legalities are in ont bit if you are able to, run as many baits as you can at least 3 miles apart until you find a good boar. Then it's a matter of hunting that bait as often as you can and hoping that he shows up in day light. Get the bear in a routine if possible by baiting at the same time every day and making lots of noise while doing it. Think of it as ringing a dinner bell. I always leave work shirts in the stand after I bait so they get used to my scent. You won't best their noses but do all that's in your power to trick them.
 
There are some very large bears in NE BC, dangerous too, look at what happened at Liard.

Many have theorized that black bears further north are more aggressive due to grizzly bears. They have to be aggressive when they have an opportunity before Mr grizz shows up. :)
 
In my experience in NE and North Central BC there are some large berry fed black bears. Their numbers are pretty far from non existent too.

Sure there are, and wherever you find black bears there are going to be some big ones but there are areas where you are much more likely to find Grizzlies than black bears. The conditions for growing big bears is always going to better where feeding seasons are long/hibernation short and there is access to good food sources.
 
The "Ontario record" by weight is 760 pounds........ there are some big bears here, that is for sure...

That being said, ther are many factors that effect bear weights....... time of year, hibernation cycles, location (read, is there an easy and abundant food source nearby?)......

Too many factors with bear to consider only one location the best....
 
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