Tactics for Shooting a Monster Black Bear

Sure there are, and wherever you find black bears there are going to be some big ones but there are areas where you are much more likely to find Grizzlies than black bears. The conditions for growing big bears is always going to better where feeding seasons are long/hibernation short and there is access to good food sources.

Yep for a long time BC Fish and wildlife thought the Bears On Haida gwaii was a subspecies due to the size but further studies proved the black bears never hibernated and grow as big as grizzly bears
Can't hunt bears on Haida gwaii anymore but ther are plenty of coast line to look for a realy big black bear there out there ,but don't think you get realy big black bear inland wen thay hibernate 4 months ore more out of the year
 
Here is a tutorial that I have posted before... I had the foresight to save it so that I could repost when the question came up again... in this case the experience represented in this post was derived from an area encompassed by a forty mile radius from the OP's home.


A Brief Tutorial on Baiting Black Bears


Black bears are creatures of habit, but not in the same way as whitetail deer. They do not travel highly predictable routes between bedding areas and food sources. Their movement patterns are primarily dictated by specific food sources and wind direction and thermals. Bears tend to bed in random locations, but those which provide them with safe escape routes and consistent thermals for scenting danger. Bears are very random and opportunistic scavengers... more so than top tier predators... that is not to say they won't scarf up a beaver caught away from water or yank a calf moose out of a birthing cow... But in early spring they are largely vegetarian, eating new green growth, grasses and clover and poplar catkins, they move on to sucker runs and scavenging until there are berries available, and then on to grain crops and fruit when that is present. Bears are not above dining on rotting carcasses found in the woods or along roadways. Before denning they will eat the cambium from aspen and birch and continue to scavenge... when they start burning more calories than they are taking in, they go to den... black bears are not, strictly speaking, "hibernators" they are "denners" as the trigger is not photoperiod but food availability. The idea of baiting is to create a food source that allows some predictability in the bear’s movements… this gives you an edge in getting into position to make a quality shot. In many areas, such as thick boreal forest regions, this is the only realistic method of hunting black bears. Baiting is misunderstood by many who have not done it. The perception is that it is taking unfair advantage and is a slam-dunk method, and akin to shooting fish in a barrel. This could not be further from the truth. In WMU’s where baiting is the primary method of hunting bears, the success rate is in the range of 10-15%... similar to regions where other methods, such as spot & stalk, are utilized. Bears are wary creatures with keen senses, they are well aware that humans are associated with the bait sites, and they approach with extreme wariness. Wind is your best friend or worst enemy, as bears rely most heavily on their sense of smell as their primary line of defense.
When positioning bait sites, there are a number of factors that can up the odds of success. The idea is to choose a location that is natural to bear movement, rather than trying to draw them to areas that are convenient for you. The location should have the elements that encourage their frequent and prolonged usage. These elements, in no particular order, are; travel corridor, cover, water source, escape routes and limited human access.
The best tool in positioning your bait site is a good topographical map of 1:50,000 or better scale. If you are searching over a large region as would be the case when hunting large tracts of crown land, the standard 1:50,000 map provides sufficient data for choosing the location. When hunting specific tracts of private land, a 1:20.000 scale map will provide greater detail. There are mapping companies that will customize maps with specific scale and allow you to choose the data you would like included, such as topographic contour lines at any specified interval, creeks and streams, logging roads, clearings and swamp areas etc…
In searching the map, you are looking for natural bottleneck areas between lakes, or saddles in ridges or corridors between terrain features such as steep, rocky mountains and lakes, rivers or clearings. Bears can and do travel wherever they will, but are most likely to follow natural drainages, particularly following creeks and rivers, where food is more likely and cover is plentiful. Bears are disinclined to expose themselves during daylight hours, which is why they often remain unseen despite living in close proximity to human habitation. Once you locate natural corridors, find those that are also adjacent to a water source with excellent (read; “thick”) cover. The location should also allow the bear to approach and flee in multiple directions… BUT, you will preferably position a terrain feature downwind of the prevailing wind direction, that blocks or discourages approach from that direction, ie. A lake, river or pond, or clearing etc… This will give you a significant advantage when you hunt the location only on the prevailing wind, making it less likely that you will be scented. When I was guiding, I had four to eight hunters in camp any given week, and to accommodate those hunters, I had as many as 40-50 stand locations, this allowed options for each hunter regardless of the wind direction. I did not hunt a quality location on a bad wind, there is no surer way to educate the larger, dominant bears than to have them scent a hunter on stand.
Next you are looking for locations that provide reasonable access to you, but discourage access to others (sometimes only a perceived limitation). Most hunters will follow trails to logical jump off points, and will travel a very limited distance from that point before setting up their bait location. One of my favorite tactics was to cross a creek or river to access an area. Few hunters will get out of their trucks or off their quads to wade a river to place a bait… but when you find a route that allows easy fording of the river, the opposite bank opens of an area of limited accessibility to humans and a comfort zone for bruins. The one dilemma with this strategy, is that you may (will) loose the location on occasion during high water flooding, but usually only for a day or two until the levels subside. Another, perhaps unexpected, strategy, is to access a good location that is adjacent to a major highway, but does not have a natural stopping location for vehicles to pull over… bears can exhibit, secure wilderness behaviours, in these locations because there is little evidence or history of human encroachment. If you are forced to hunt where others are hunting, your “ace in the hole,” is to go deeper and bait better. Lots of quality food, deposited regularly, will dramatically improve your odds of success. I once met a father and son, from Ohio, hunting the same location immediately adjacent to a logging road, on successive days. The father expressed, his disappointment for his excited son, and that he realized that they had been “taken” by a shoddy outfitter, on the adjacent BMA. I had just harvested the final bear of our season and had a number of active baits in the area. I told the father to get dropped off as usual the following evening, and that I would meet them there. The next night, I picked up the pair and brought them into one of my stands being frequented by a nice boar… this required quite a hike, fording a creek and crossing a beaver dam. I told the two to make a careful, patient lung shot and that I would see them before dark, to return them to their pick-up location. I had not reached my truck when I heard the shot, half an hour later I returned, to find an exuberant young man… we tracked the 350 pound boar a mere 50 yards… the bear was dressed and a hauled out, and the very tired, but happy father and son deposited at their pick up location an hour early. The man was flabbergasted that I had helped them, and tried to pay me, but I declined and wished them well. That other outfitter overbooked his lodge, had too few baits, located too close together, too close to human activity and baited with too little bait. He had only five juvenile bears taken for the season, for a success rate of 12.5%... Not counting the mature boar the young man had taken from my stand. On the other hand, we had 23 hunters, 100% success rate on mostly good mature bears and three or four real bruisers… tactics, effort and paying attention to detail does matter.
Once you have your location chosen, you need to start baiting… ideally you would have started gathering and storing bait months in advance, there was a time when I had a garage full of 30 cubic foot freezers. Start with a strike bait to get scent spread over a large area. For strike baits, I used a large onion bag full of pork fat. Pound a 10” spike high into a tree, hang the bag and then rope it to the tree, so the bears can’t just run off with the whole bag. I never used barrels when baiting, but if you can only bait occasionally or on weekends, then barrel baiting may be your only means of leaving a sufficient food supply to encourage bears to come regularly and stay in the area. I preferred using onion bags and sealed garbage bags for bread stuffs (to keep them moist and fresh)… tied onto the trees the bears would tear out the bottom with their teeth, spilling the bait onto the ground and forcing them to eat a little at the time and move around, at the same time exposing themselves to a patient, careful shot. Use small pieces of bait, so they cannot run off with a large chunk and spend the last few minutes of legal light dining in a thicket, out of sight. Your goal should be to create competition on the bait. Multiple bears on a location create urgency and leads to bears coming in earlier, rather than after legal hunting hours. Keep in mind that juvenile bears are often the first ones in to feed… waiting will often produce a larger bear. Often the boss bear in the area will set-up somewhere nearby and will monitor activity around the bait. The boss bear will charge in to chase off younger bears. We have had baits where as many as eight or ten bears were running each other off and mock fighting for dominance… this has occasionally led to cubs being treed by boars and can get hairy when the tree they choose for refuge is the one the hunter is in, which happened on enough occasions that it was something we coached our clients to deal with. Gather pork and beef scraps, bread, donuts, fruit, vegetables, cereal, grains, dog food etc… Ideally, you will bait regularly and consistently. For volume, I used a full Trapper Nelson rucksack (5-6 gallons) at each bait location, baiting every second day leading up to the hunt and switching to every day once hunters were in camp. Done right, it is grueling, back-breaking work, your legs and lungs are going to burn and you will sleep very soundly each night… at least the nights that you don’t spend on your hands and knees with a Mini-Mag light in your teeth blood-trailing bruins through cedar and cane swaps.
Once our chosen bait locations prove active, we build a Tee-Pee wall set-up with logs spiked at angles on the backside of the bait tree, creating a crib of sorts, which forces the bears to come around the ends, broadside, exposing their vitals to a properly placed lung shot…this is particularly important for bowhunters, which made up the bulk of our clientele.
Well… that should get you rolling anyway. Good luck.

This spring boar was taken 30 miles from the OP, 540 pounds dressed on farm scales and had a 21 13/16" skull... the bear would have been 700 pounds in the fall.


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It's crazy there is no more bear hunting there.


What made everyone mad was both a hunter and guide both laughing as the bear was dying a Little more respect would've went to long ways and don't post that #### on YouTube
I for one hope to see bear hunting on Haida Gwaii and the Haid a nation shod be running a guiding outfit
 
http://www.frow.ca/bear/modernfirearm/

Bear - Modern Firearm Record


1. Fred Simmons 22-3/16 2000

Story by Steve Galea
Originally Published in the Minden Times
I’m not sure what’s the bigger story here: a new provincial record-book black bear or a new provincial record for remaining humble. Then again, I guess it doesn’t matter since Fred Simmons has just set them both.
The 58 year-old Minden resident recently found out that a black bear he shot during the 2000 moose season is the new Ontario record in the firearms category according to record keepers at FROW. In hunting, this sort of accomplishment ranks right up there with a gold medal. It’s a once in a lifetime achievement that most of us never even consider within the realm of possibility. And the humble Mr. Simmons is taking it all in stride.
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“I’m happy that it’s a record but it’s the good memories of that hunt that really matter,” he said. “If it hadn’t been for Terry and Liz Cowen, I don’t think I would have even had it scored. Liz thought it might be up there in the records.”
When he first saw it amble over the rise on the fine autumn day in mid-October of 2000, he was actually hoping to see a moose. Instead, what filled his sight was the massive silhouette of a bear that he conservatively estimates at around 600lbs in weight. The key word here is conservative.
His first concern, when he shot the animal, was that his aim was true. As it ran off a short distance to die, he was hoping he didn’t miss. The penalty for poor marksmanship, in his hunt camp, is a photo taken of the hunter sitting down with an empty chamber pot on his head.
“Actually, that’s what I was most relieved about (no pun intended) when we walked up to the dead bear.”
Haliburton-based taxidermist Terry Cowen, who has seen his share of big bears, says, “It was never weighed but the rug took up two full four by eight foot panels. I had a 571 pound bear in the shop last year and it was a baby compared to the Simmons bear. This was huge, from the tip of its nose to the base of its tail was 8 feet when stretched. It looked like a grizzly bear…”
Reluctantly, Simmons acknowledged the bear’s size too. “There’s big bears and then there was this one. I don’t think I’ll see another like it again.”
Though massive in size, heavier bears may have been shot. But that doesn’t affect record book standing. Record book keepers actually measure bear skulls, much as deer are ranked by their antlers. And here’s where the Simmons bear was the undisputed champ. Terry Cowen, also an official FROW scorer, measured the bear’s skull at 22-3/16 inches, relegating Paul Zuch’s 21-12/16 Parry Sound bear to second place and Ron Sullivan’s 21-10/16 bear to third. It’s interesting to note that both the Simmons and Sullivan bears were taken in Haliburton County.
Though he knew it was big, he didn’t know that he had taken the largest Ontario black bear in the modern firearms category until the Sullivan bear appeared in the December-January issue of Ontario Out of Doors magazine. Then Liz Cowen, an avid outdoorsperson in her own right, contacted the magazine and said that she had a higher scored bear skull in her shop.
As a Field Editor for Ontario Out of Doors, I was then assigned to investigate the story for the magazine’s News section. It didn’t take more than a couple of calls to determine that the skull and bear rug that Simmons possessed were from the new Ontario record. Although the bear was scored in 2001, it will be featured in an upcoming edition of the FROW record book.
You’d think with such a trophy, Simmons would possess a dearth of photos including wallet-sized glossies and a couple transferred onto T-shirts. (Not that I’ve given it much thought.) Lesser men have made careers out of lesser things. When Milo Hansen of Saskatchewan shot his world record buck he, literally, went on tour. Yet Simmons, in the midst of a move, had a hard time finding even one photo and only gave an aw-shucks type of reaction when I pointed out that his bear was the new provincial record. Minden Times News Editor Jerry Grozelle actually had to go out and take photos. I’m thinking that this sort of humility in the face of out and out success just might get Fred Simmons drummed out of the hunting fraternity. I’m hoping not though. Mild-mannered, gentlemanly and humble, that’s Fred Simmons – and we could use more good people just like him.
 
I'm in Northern Ontario and have shot quite a few bears over the years but haven't shot any real monsters. Do any of you have any suggestions that would help put a true monster in front of me? I'm planning on hunting with a rifle over bait. Looking for experienced advice please.

Thanks,

SS1

ROFLMAO! Will you look at the western guys trash talkin',here. Don't worry,there's still some huge Blackies in your area. I talk to another poster who's a guide in the north. He says the biggest Bear his clients nailed this year was over 500lbs and one showed up bigger than that,but,they couldn't get a shot off. In my own area,I ran across a set of tracks that a front paw print in fresh mud measured 1 1/2 .30-06 shells across. I have a pretty good idea that he's not alone and where he hangs out,too. I'm just 10km south of Millbrook,ON.WMU73. Bait the daylights out of your station and be patient. If you build it,they will come. Good luck this spring.
 
Thank you all for the advice. It sounds like the harder you work at it, the better your chances.

Thanks again,

SS1
 
Thank you all for the advice. It sounds like the harder you work at it, the better your chances.

Thanks again,

SS1

You will find a nice bear
if you wear in northern BC I would take you out on the boat and Cruise the shore line but that's a Gentlemans Hunt with is nice Sumtimes but a bear you worker hard for will be a trophy regardless of size
 
So what's the deal with Oregon-based Steve's Outdoor Adventures running hunts in BC? I thought guides had to be Canadian.

It was a American company that bought the guiding rights on Haida Gwaii thay wear also responsible for creating the uproar on trophy bear hunting on Haida Gwaii
If it would have a small one man local guiding outfitter operating there still would've be bear hunting on Haida Gwaii
The old German guy that did have the hunting territory for many years was very conservative and only took 4 or 5 Bears each year which was nothing nobody mind his Little guiding outfit
All of a sudden there's a bunch of American guides just hammering The bear and
when the one video get on YouTube the locals had enough it not like anybody was getting any local jobs as guides or housekeepers etc.
 
It would be interesting to see how he got a work permit from the government. It's definitely not a job a resident Canadian couldn't do,so,I wonder whose palm got greased. Follow the money.


Well exactly. And he is just the owner. Who are the assistant guides? Boat operators, and all the rest of the staff? Does anyone know anything about the operation?

Ardent?
 
A few years ago, Outdoor Canada posted an article about a guide out of Timmins that had hunters bag two bears in the 600-800 pound class. I cant remember the exact weight but the picture of the biggest one before being shot looked like a VW with feet sticking out. It was beside a culvert for size comparison. Most bears seen by outdoorsfolk seem to be in the 300 pound size. The bigger ones are more wary. Mostly.
 
It has bin a while since I seen a realy big black bear last one was a monster blacker on Haida Gwaii with work it keeps me away from from the coast so I don't see as many in Alberta compare to the westcoast
I did see a Beautiful Grizly up by Manning Alberta on a pipeline job couple years ago but there is sumthing special when it's a big black bear
 
Do any of you have any suggestions that would help put a true monster in front of me?

If you want to shoot a large animal don't shoot the small ones. Seriously too many people looking for "trophy " animals break down and shoot the first legal critter that shows up.
 
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