Takedown rifles,

while i do not like very much the blaser r8 and r93 make more sense than the sauer 202 TD or Mauser 03.

the mount system for the blasers is on the barrel not the other ones despite coming from the same factory now.

but a mauser system can be taken down with not that much hassle expecially those with a torx key system.

but i have only a savage take down lever action in 300 savage and a baikal O/u in 30-06 so im not in the same wagon for sure lol.

what works for me.
 
razorbeck said:
The Lever on a takedown is the locking mechanism and it has a pocket to fold into so when not in use it disapears

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that where is the lever it will stay like that when take down and just a waiting time before it will break.
 
Ardent said:
I had mixed feelings on it, it is without question a good rifle, but also a serious question was posed for me in if it was worth what they sell for. Put a link to the review on the first page of this thread, it will be able to outline my thoughts on it far better than trying to summarize here. In the end, the biggest misgiving I had with it came from the shooter, as it just didn't hit naturally for me on snap shoots. Stock shape, length, and balance were all wrong for me. The manufacturing other than some of the checkering was superb and fully German in quality. I did appreciate that I could fit a 9.3x62 repeater in a standard briefcase, but in the end wasn't able to be comfortable with the rifle.
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Indeed I would want to handle a Sauer prior to dropping that much money, but LOP and comb height can be manipulated to suit the individual . . . a factory rifle, made to suit everyone, seldom suits anyone, regardless of price. Mind you, the perceptions of someone, who in polite company, freely admits a preference for double rifles, is suspect.:ang3
 
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How long does it take to put the Browning BLR take down together? Curious if there is any advantage over a folding stock rifle or the take down for portability in the bush and quick deployment.
 
Of the takedowns I have the Browning blr is the quickest to put together. The scope can stay on the rifle receiver or can be mounted on the barrel. As for the single shots I like the Baikals the best. The marlin guide gun takedown takes the longest to takedown put together as it is threaded all the way. The hs precision takedown is also quick with bolt open, lever pulled and barrel twisted approx. 60 degrees, only thing is that they are heavy.
 
Boomer said:
Indeed I would want to handle a Sauer prior to dropping that much money, but LOP and comb height can be manipulated to suit the individual . . . a factory rifle, made to suit everyone, seldom suits anyone, regardless of price. Mind you, the perceptions of someone, who in polite company, freely admits a preference for double rifles, is suspect.:ang3
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Double rifles? Terrible things. :redface:
 
There really should be a better term than "take-down" for rifles like the Blaser, or a bedded Mauser, versus guns like the Sauer 202 Takedown or any of the single-shot and double rifle options. When you take down a single, whether a $5000 K95 or a $300 H&R, the longest part of the package is the barrel. You've got something that can fit into a very compact case or container. If your gun has a 20-inch barrel, it takes down to a 20-inch bundle. Very nice! The BLR fits into this category as well.

When you remove a barreled action of a boltgun from its stock, or detach the barrel from a Blaser, you have reduced the length of the firearm only by the amount of barrel that projects beyond the tip of stock. You still have a package that is the full length of the gunstock, much less compact and appealing...better than nothing, but not really in the same league as a true takedown gun.
 
jjohnwm said:
When you take down a single, whether a $5000 K95 or a $300 H&R, the longest part of the package is the barrel. You've got something that can fit into a very compact case or container. If your gun has a 20-inch barrel, it takes down to a 20-inch bundle.
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Here is one set of .30/30 & .45/70 & 20 gauge;

 
Well this thread seams to have roared back to life,
Seen as I started it, thanks to those who have commemented, I have a bunch of prices in on several types of rifles, I was hoping to find someone with sum of them in Alberta, so I can handle and perhaps shoot, to check for fit etc.
As much as I like single shots, for this rifle I really am looking for a repeater, or perhaps a small bore double.
Simply put, rifle will be taken to New Zealand and will be in a ute (pickup) and may need to be called in to action very quickly, so assamble with out tools or little screws, than can be dropped in haste or worse lost, if an easy deer or pig, runs across the road, on crown land, rules are different than Canada, before anyone commements,
Also looking at Africa, New Caledonia, and Australia, for hunting trips in the next Couple years.
Looking hard at the Mauser M03, Verney Caron, Dakota, sauer and Krieghoff semprio pump at the moment, As well as Doubles.
And keeping an eye out for a savage takedown. this would be ideal for leaving in a vehical, over a $5000 plus euro double or bolt.
thanks.
 
Bear in mind one of the over under doubles would suit purposes perfectly, they're also cheaper. All you need sighted in for long shots if you're into scopes is one barrel, and that one barrel will shoot as well as any single shot. The "fruit groups" of doubles, mandarin oranges, apples, oranges, grapefruits, cantelope, and God forbid watermelons only apply to both barrels combined. Just the best grouping barrel by itself will often outperform most single shots and act quite like a heavy barrel, given how rigid it is soldered to its sibling barrel. Doubles and singles of the same break action mechanism remain the best true takedowns, 5 second assembly once practiced, and very pleasant to use.
 
Ardent said:
Bear in mind one of the over under doubles would suit purposes perfectly, they're also cheaper. All you need sighted in for long shots if you're into scopes is one barrel, and that one barrel will shoot as well as any single shot. The "fruit groups" of doubles, mandarin oranges, apples, oranges, grapefruits, cantelope, and God forbid watermelons only apply to both barrels combined. Just the best grouping barrel by itself will often outperform most single shots and act quite like a heavy barrel, given how rigid it is soldered to its sibling barrel. Doubles and singles of the same break action mechanism remain the best true takedowns, 5 second assembly once practiced, and very pleasant to use.
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Despite my disdain for doubles, there is no arguing with their compact size and ease of take down. Actually I had the opportunity to shoot a Baikal SXS in .30/06, and I was frankly amazed. The rifle was new, and the proud owner was visiting Pounder in the hopes of bumming some .30/06 cartridges when we pulled in. Pounder was out of '06, but I just happened to have a few in the truck.

I didn't want to like that rifle. The first thing that annoyed me about it was that the wood was drop dead gorgeous, completely out of place for such a lowly manufacturer. The next surprise was that it felt really good at the shoulder, much better than the high priced British double that I used in Tanzania, no doubt due to its slim profile. The third surprise came when I pressed the front trigger, and a moment later dust flew from a small rock some 300 yards distant. When the second barrel went, I was rewarded with a second hit. You're not supposed to be able to do that with a double rifle! Naturally the two triggers felt nothing alike, and that is a point of contention that I have with double rifles in general, never mind a double that cost less than a grand (at the time).

A pair of off hand hits, on a 300 yard target the size of a game animal that's lying down, with irons that had not been adjusted from the factory setting, is the sort of introduction to a new rifle that incites strong feelings. I'll admit, I couldn't help myself, I wanted that rifle. I'm sure I'd have taken it home with me had my wife not been there to question why we needed yet another .30/06, and why I would even allow a double onto the property, given my prejudices. Sigh. I just checked the Canadian Baikal site to find the model name, and it appears that the SXS is now only available in .45/70. If the '06 version was indeed dropped, its a shame, unless that particular rifle was just a fluke, that rifle is an incredible value.
 
Boomer said:
A pair of off hand hits, on a 300 yard target the size of a game animal that's lying down, with irons that had not been adjusted from the factory setting, is the sort of introduction to a new rifle that incites strong feelings...

... I just checked the Canadian Baikal site to find the model name, and it appears that the SXS is now only available in .45/70. If the '06 version was indeed dropped, its a shame, unless that particular rifle was just a fluke, that model is an incredible value.
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I had a Baikal SXS .45/70 for a brief while... it also had excellent wood... it was reasonably well regulated with 325 FTX loads... it was a nice handling rifle... but the acquisition of a pair of No.1 .45/70's sealed it's fate.
 
Fair points and if an affordable double can be had that is a beautiful thing- I'd love one I can afford to beat up. Subjective as it is, no gun hits for me like my Merkel, not even the Queen, just one of those unholy relationships between man and device like you experienced there Boomer. Not exclusive to doubles, that level of fit, have a No.1 custom that fits like a glove (it should- I stocked it!), but it's a rare and beautiful thing finding a dynamite combination for yourself.
 
Ardent said:
... keep having strange visions of "CERAKOTING" it for the north coast as a work tool.
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Say, Whaaaaaaaaa???

That's just not right... proceed with the divorce... make a clean, amicable break... and each go your respective ways... no sense someone loosing their soul in this deal....

Where's Douglas??? He has expertise on both fronts.
 
A non take down rifle that will take down is the Remington pump-760 or 7600. While it is not generally known, the barrels come off just like a 870 shotgun. Scopes mount to the receiver and the rifles come in reasonable calibres- 270, 30-06, 35 Whelen. Multiple calibre guns are possible if you can find additional barrels (hard to do). Return to zero is OK (in Namibia we checked our zero every day at the insistence of the PH.) Since the guns are pumps, you avoid many of the restrictions that apply to semi autos. A good 760/7600 with handloads will generally shoot as accurately as a factory grade bolt action hunting rifle.
 
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