Taking a non-licensed "friend" with a rifle?

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My honey gets a real thrill out of watching me coyote calling and I would like to take her along with me more often. Maybe if she comes along she'll decide to take up the sport with me. :cool:

Since it's also deer season I was wondering if it's legal to have her carry my unloaded deer rifle in case we luck into a nice buck while coyote hunting. She'd never handle a loaded weapon, I'd take the deer under my tag if we decided to do so.

Would this be legal in BC?
 
blargon said:
In Ontario you can carry all the guns you want, as long as only one is loaded at a time.
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why only one loaded?
A stupid question, as I don't intend to shoot two semiautomatics at the same time :p , but where does it say only one?
 
cariboo_kid said:
My honey gets a real thrill out of watching me coyote calling and I would like to take her along with me more often. Maybe if she comes along she'll decide to take up the sport with me. :cool:

Since it's also deer season I was wondering if it's legal to have her carry my unloaded deer rifle in case we luck into a nice buck while coyote hunting. She'd never handle a loaded weapon, I'd take the deer under my tag if we decided to do so.

Would this be legal in BC?
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If she doesnt have her hunting licesnse then you cant bring her along hunting.

That is, atleast what my instructor told me
 
the_big_mike said:
If she doesnt have her hunting licesnse then you cant bring her along hunting.

That is, atleast what my instructor told me
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actually you can but she would need to be licensed to use the gun;) instructors are a HUGE problem because many dont know wtf they are talking about:rolleyes: they should know all of the laws about what they teach but ive seen time and time again that many dont know more then the average joe.

in ontario you can carry as many guns as you want. not sure about how many can be loaded though.

why not just carry the 2nd gun yourself? quite often in the winter when im in an area wheres theres all sorts of small game i carry my 870 and have my 17hmr on my shoulder with the sling angled on my chest. it takes longer to get it off but i only need it for jacks and crows in fields anyways. this way i can blast a grouse that flushes or nail a jackrabbit thats sittin along a fencerow;)

ive always wanted to take 5 guns hunting to see what someone would say but figured id likely have the cops after me:D :rolleyes:
 
canadian hunter312 said:
actually you can but she would need to be licensed to use the gun;) instructors are a HUGE problem because many dont know wtf they are talking about:rolleyes: they should know all of the laws about what they teach but ive seen time and time again that many dont know more then the average joe.

in ontario you can carry as many guns as you want. not sure about how many can be loaded though.

why not just carry the 2nd gun yourself? quite often in the winter when im in an area wheres theres all sorts of small game i carry my 870 and have my 17hmr on my shoulder with the sling angled on my chest. it takes longer to get it off but i only need it for jacks and crows in fields anyways. this way i can blast a grouse that flushes or nail a jackrabbit thats sittin along a fencerow;)

ive always wanted to take 5 guns hunting to see what someone would say but figured id likely have the cops after me:D :rolleyes:
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You postivitely sure?

I was under the impression that even if you have a firearm license it doesnt matter.

If your friend has a tag for whitetail and your friend is walking in close proximaty, even with an unloaded gun, I was under the impression that it still counts as hunting.
 
My understanding in Ontario is that you can take an unlicensed person out hunting with you as an "observer", which I have done several times. That person may not actively participate in the hunt, can't flush game, call or shoot, but simply observe, learn or film.
 
rideauwrangler said:
My understanding in Ontario is that you can take an unlicensed person out hunting with you as an "observer", which I have done several times. That person may not actively participate in the hunt, can't flush game, call or shoot, but simply observe, learn or film.
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Sorry to disagree. The definition of hunting is very loose in Ontario. The observer would be considered to be hunting. Having said that, the CO may very well not care, i.e. Dad takes his 8 year along to observe his duck hunting. The 8 year old is clearly too small to shoot.
 
Sharkson said:
Sorry to disagree. The definition of hunting is very loose in Ontario. The observer would be considered to be hunting. Having said that, the CO may very well not care, i.e. Dad takes his 8 year along to observe his duck hunting. The 8 year old is clearly too small to shoot.
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Bang on. I have talked to a CO, and if you get the wrong CO, and you pre-season scout , you may be charged with hunting out of season, wether you have a gun or not.

Includes lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing,
chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed,
injured, captured or harassed. You need a hunting licence to do any of
these things, except where the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act states
otherwise.
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To answer your original question, no she can not carry a rifle for you without having both a Firearm licence and a hunting licence. In BC I can see nowhere that states to my satisfaction that there is a problem with being accompanyed by a friend who is just an observer.
 
BC HUNTING REGS

Hunt and Hunting - includes shooting
at, attracting, searching for, chasing, pursuing,
following after or on the trail of, stalking, or
lying in wait for wildlife or attempting to do
any of those things, whether or not the
wildlife is then or subsequently wounded,
killed or captured:
(a) with intention to capture the wildlife, or
(b) while in possession of a firearm or
other weapon.
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I don't know about B.C., but here in Saskatchewan you can not take her.
The Regulations state that hunting is
...Hunting includes taking, wounding, killing, chasing, pursuing, worrying, capturing, following after or on the trail of, searching for, shooting at, trapping, setting snares for, stalking or lying in wait for any wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is subsequently captured wounded or killed. (Saskatchewan Hunting Regulations Guide 2006):mad:

I know it's a pain, my wife doesn't hunt, but would love to come along just for the fresh air and exercise. When I asked CO,s, the answer was, "She would need a licenses".
 
Alberta must view things differently.When a friend drew his camp wainright moose tag,he called to see if his son could accompany him while hunting to help him with the moose if he was successful.Fish&wildlife told him on the phone, that this was acceptable.Then when they checked in at the fish&wildlife check station to enter the camp,the officers still had no problems with his son accompanying him.His son did not hold a license at the time.
 
stubblejumper said:
Alberta must view things differently.When a friend drew his camp wainright moose tag,he called to see if his son could accompany him while hunting to help him with the moose if he was successful.Fish&wildlife told him on the phone, that this was acceptable.Then when they checked in at the fish&wildlife check station to enter the camp,the officers still had no problems with his son accompanying him.His son did not hold a license at the time.
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Well he talked to them. The best thing would be to phone them up and say that the girlfriend wants to document a hunt. And then try to get a letter from them saying it is alright. Talking with them first, goes a long way.
 
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