taking a white tail with a 22-250

KodiakHntr said:
Regardless, there isn't a whitetail walking the planet that will shrug off a tsx tossed from a 22-250. And I strongly suspect that 100% of hunters can shoot a 22-250 much better than they can shoot a 300 mag, which allows for better shot placement, which ends up with bullets going where they should, not wherever the rifle happens to be pointed when the trigger is yanked.
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With its deer slaying potential, it's really too bad it's still illegal to use in many states and provinces. If a pellet gun can take down coyotes, I see no reason why a 22-250 shouldn't be the new jack-of-all-trades for North American game. Using Barnes TSX of course.
 
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Accurate, easy to shoot and devastating on deer. My daughter at 10 and 12 YO. Both with a Remington model 700 SPS chambered for 22-250
 
Don't you mean 11 pages? Peoples opposition is the same reason that a lot of stupid laws exist. BC has it right with the any centerfire rule.
 
bearkilr said:
With its deer slaying potential, it's really too bad it's still illegal to use in many states and provinces. If a pellet gun can take down coyotes, I see no reason why a 22-250 shouldn't be the new jack-of-all-trades for North American game. Using Barnes TSX of course.
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3 provinces, correct? (That don't allow 22 cf's), and at last I read, 7 states. And of those 7 (I believe, at any rate) states, 3 or 4 don't allow ANY centerfires.....

Certainly sounds like "many states" that don't allow 22's.....
 
Goodness sakes. This is the same conversation with the same detractors etc everytime.
Make hole in bloody stuff, deer dies. If the cartridge is capable within the range use it.
I normally pack a .270 or 7mm of some sorts for deer, but I intend to go on my doe hunt with a 22-250AI and 45grTSXs at 4150fps.
I know that it will make a hole in the bloody stuff. Why am I doing it? Because its legal, I like the rifle and I know its applicable to the game and range. Then again I've kille 200lb mule does with 85gr .243 bullets at 400yds so I have some practical experience that tells me a .224" bullet is very adequate for what I intend.
 
Would you guys take a 243 for Cape Buffalo to Africa? How about a 22-250 for Kudu? Certainly it'll kill either with proper shot placement. Does the application change when money is involved?

I'm seriously just trying to figure out what the attraction is to using calibers which may be "just enough" under ideal conditions. Is it the fact our game is plentiful and hunting opportunities are relatively abundant and accessible? Is it simply trying out a new gun or load?

Most hunters from other parts of the world tend to "overgun" or err on the side of caution if you will. Is it the same when we head out on a hunt abroad where we place more value on having success?

Not trolling for a flame war, I'm seriously curious here. I've pondered this quite often.
 
I'm pretty sure I've read 7.62 Nato (308 win) has been used in Elephant culls and is commonly used by elephant poachers! Waiting for the correct shot is most likely the key to using a smaller caliber than normal.
 
bearkilr said:
Would you guys take a 243 for Cape Buffalo to Africa? How about a 22-250 for Kudu? Certainly it'll kill either with proper shot placement. Does the application change when money is involved?

I'm seriously just trying to figure out what the attraction is to using calibers which may be "just enough" under ideal conditions. Is it the fact our game is plentiful and hunting opportunities are relatively abundant and accessible? Is it simply trying out a new gun or load?

Most hunters from other parts of the world tend to "overgun" or err on the side of caution if you will. Is it the same when we head out on a hunt abroad where we place more value on having success?

Not trolling for a flame war, I'm seriously curious here. I've pondered this quite often.
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In my case I shoot a lot more coyotes, rabbits, skunks, etc with my gun, so .223 seems like the best option for all around hunting. Most of my deer rifle hunting is also done from the same stand/location my archery hunting, so shot distance are not much beyond 75 yards. Once I've saved up and gotten wife permission, I would like a.308 for big game, but for now my .223 will have to do.
 
There is a convicted poacher here who has killed thousands (yes thousands) of moose with a 22-250. This proves it can be done. However it is far from ideal. (also illegal around these parts). Actually around here a .243 with 100gr bullet is minimum cal. and for good reason.
 
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hawk-i said:
I'm pretty sure I've read 7.62 Nato (308 win) has been used in Elephant culls and is commonly used by elephant poachers! Waiting for the correct shot is most likely the key to using a smaller caliber than normal.
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Poachers are rather indifferent to making clean one shot kills. FAL's have been used in the past on culls, but I believe the calibre of choice is .458 ( Mike Lagrange, Ballistics in Perspective)
 
ianfroese said:
In my case I shoot a lot more coyotes, rabbits, skunks, etc with my gun, so .223 seems like the best option for all around hunting. Most of my deer rifle hunting is also done from the same stand/location my archery hunting, so shot distance are not much beyond 75 yards. Once I've saved up and gotten wife permission, I would like a.308 for big game, but for now my .223 will have to do.
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That's a legitimate reason, thanks for the input.

And to the OP, sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your thread, just trying to get some additional ideas in regard to your question.
 
MiG25 said:
Because it is more than adequate, and the rifles tend to be accurate and easy to shoot well. And maybe some people shoot many more coyotes than deer and the 22-250 is hard to beat for that purpose.
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I'm simply not buying in to the argument that a .22-250 is appreciably more accurate or easier to shoot than a .260, 6.5x55, 7-08 or 7x57.
 
My personal minimum for big game is a .30 cal bullet with a weight of 180gr. I really like the 7.62x54r in 203gr. Hits like the hammer of Thor.
 
9.3mauser said:
I'm simply not buying in to the argument that a .22-250 is appreciably more accurate or easier to shoot than a .260, 6.5x55, 7-08 or 7x57.
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Not everyone is He-Man and the 22-250 has less than half the recoil of the cartridges you list.
 
davemccarthy707 said:
My personal minimum for big game is a .30 cal bullet with a weight of 180gr. I really like the 7.62x54r in 203gr. Hits like the hammer of Thor.
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Since you are in Newfoundland I assume you are talking moose, and I think that is a sensible choice. My all around rifle is an 8x57 shooting 200 gr partitions at 2500fps. It has counted coyotes, wolf, black bear, two types of deer, and elk. While it is no magnum, in a light rifle like mine, it is more than some can handle. The end result on whitetailed deer has been exactly the same as with the 22-250.
 
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