Taking photos of a grizzly at 50 meters before being a victim

Well A Canadian can't bring his 870 camping to Alaska or I would've.Pepper spray and a 12" bowie is as good as it gets.I had a too freindly black bear at Liard Hotsprings that got two softball sized rocks till he thought he should be elsewhere.Woke up in the overflow parking surrounded by police tape as a couple of local hillbillies stabbed two people that asked them to turn down their music.One guy was in critical for 3 days but made it.Same trip had a 1/2 yellow black bear swim the Klondike River to see what fish we were catching.Strong swimmer as be went in a straight line in spite of the current 100 yards in about 20 seconds.We had departed by the time he hit our shore......Harold

Harold,

you can bring a gun in Alaska just making it in time and wait for the paper approval .... a small game hunting license is helping. but i even know some yukoners going there even with their handguns ...

Phil
 
Some of you guys missed the part where the incident happened in a park... Only rangers are permitted to carry a rifle.

I also read that it was the first death in that park, but I wonder how many incidents prior?

No doubt it will be a wake up call to a lot of tourists ... the fact that bears are the ultimate preditor, definitely unpredictable, territorial, and hungry (storing for winter) this time of year.

It certainly does help to be prepared, or avoid situations like this.... but human nature keeps putting people in danger. (aka dumb , uninformed people)

There have been a few hunters killed by grizzleys in BC over the years, well armed with rifles, but taken by surprise, and as pointed out , both black and brown bears look sloth like... but can run like a horse and hit like a Mac truck.

Many people just don't know it.

Lucky


in Alaska you can have a gun with you even in a park and since 2010.

..."...
As of February 22, 2010, a new federal law allows people who can legally possess firearms under applicable federal and Alaska state law, to legally possess firearms within national parks.

Under federal law, the use or discharge of a firearm is still prohibited by applicable provisions of 36 CFR Section 2.4(a)(2)(ii) and 36 CFR Section 13.30.

Federal law also prohibits firearms in certain facilities in parks; those places are marked with signs at all public entrances. Please check with specific parks to see a list of these facilities.

It is the responsibility of visitors to understand and comply with all applicable Alaska state and federal firearms laws before entering parks. As a starting point, please visit:

..."....
http://www.nps.gov/anch/parkmgmt/firearms.htm

in Yukon you cannot discharge a gun in a campground but it does not say you cant have a gun and guess what we always have a gun ...

Phil
 
How is the Treadwell documentary dangerous? It shows how idiotic and mentally ill he is. What happens to him and his girlfriend is terrifying (even though we never hear the audio).

I for one don't want to hear the audio. But from what i have heard from those that have heard the audio; It sounds like treadwell was trying to fend off the bear with a frying pan while yelling for his girlfriend to run away, while being attacked. that was damn heroic in my opinion. Yes I think he should have had a great big gun, but he didn't.
 
I for one don't want to hear the audio. But from what i have heard from those that have heard the audio; It sounds like treadwell was trying to fend off the bear with a frying pan while yelling for his girlfriend to run away, while being attacked. that was damn heroic in my opinion. Yes I think he should have had a great big gun, but he didn't.

Run to where? They were in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by grizzlies. She was screwed the day he took her there...
 
This drives me nuts. Not the tourists being eaten by bears, that's just NORMAL --- the fact that the government encourages people to go into provincial/territorial/federal parks in which guns are banned. HELLO! How stupid can we get here?

Just today, I was at the local gun range, and as myself and another fellow were prepping to take our targets down range, a yearling black bear came ambling down the road alongside the target berms, closing to within 200 yards of us before ducking into the trees. We waited about 20 minutes, then Range laws be damned, the 12 gauge and 308 came out, clips loaded, WITH us when we went to set our targets up. I Dare any range officer or cop to tell me otherwise when we just SAW the animals. (I will note that at our range, they DO know full well there are grizzleys and black bears running around, so enforcement of that law is, ahem, very lax.) Fortunately the critter decided not to make an appearance after that.
 
Run to where? They were in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by grizzlies. She was screwed the day he took her there...

That has no bearing on the bravery of treadwells final minutes IMO. She really had nowhere to go but that was her choice.
 
I for one don't want to hear the audio. But from what i have heard from those that have heard the audio; It sounds like treadwell was trying to fend off the bear with a frying pan while yelling for his girlfriend to run away, while being attacked. that was damn heroic in my opinion. Yes I think he should have had a great big gun, but he didn't.

Yes, Timmy became a believer as the bear was munching on his spleen. He was ####house rat crazy up to that point however. He is responsible for her death in the same way he would have been if he'd doused the campsite in gas and then started playing with fireworks.
 
I believe this says it all

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Shot at 2012-08-04
 
That has no bearing on the bravery of treadwells final minutes IMO. She really had nowhere to go but that was her choice.

Actually it was Amie who was hitting the bear with a frying pan, not Tim.

The real audio has never been released, and is in the possession of Tim's ex girlfriend. Anything on the internet is a re-enactment, using details that were in print.
 
Give me a break... stupidity on this idiots scale does not deserve sympathy... What about the people that had to clean up this douche bags mess after he was killed? Hmmm??? The responders that had to go in a kill the bear, the responders that had to bag and tag the morons remains... Nope sorry I don't care if he were a seasoned super duper hunter armed with a .500 nitro express... You act stupid and die stupid, means you were stupid.

You're just the most finest specimen ever! I'm 100% sure you never get anything wrong, you're just too good. F**king spectacular. cp:
 
I for one don't want to hear the audio. But from what i have heard from those that have heard the audio; It sounds like treadwell was trying to fend off the bear with a frying pan while yelling for his girlfriend to run away, while being attacked. that was damn heroic in my opinion. Yes I think he should have had a great big gun, but he didn't.

as harsh as it sounds, it was actually a good thing that fruitcake treadwell go turned into bear kibble. the last thing bears need is some jerkoff like treadwell telling people that bears are cute little critters and everyone should try living in the wilderness with them. it is sad that his stupidity resulted in his girlfriend dying, but for all we know she could have been just as brain dead as him.

a gun wouldn't have helped them. he was so far out to lunch that he probably couldn't even shoot one of his cute little bears. :rolleyes:
 
You're just the most finest specimen ever! I'm 100% sure you never get anything wrong, you're just too good. F**king spectacular. cp:

LoL... Your pink pantie rant made my day. You and Mr. Kodak must have been very good friends.... ;) I never said I don't get things wrong in the wilderness (although I rarely do, My life kinda depends on that) Mr. Kodak was a moron...


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