Taking photos of a grizzly at 50 meters before being a victim

does it make me a bad person if i feel more sympathy for the bear than the human?

Nope, makes you a logical person... What normal person would grieve the passing of one of a species that are supposed to have the power of reason? and then the bear has to be killed because of Mr. Kodak... I think most here would agree with how you feel, even us avid hunters.
 
Actually it was Amie who was hitting the bear with a frying pan, not Tim.

The real audio has never been released, and is in the possession of Tim's ex girlfriend. Anything on the internet is a re-enactment, using details that were in print.

I think you are right. I looked at my source material again and I was mistaken. It was reported that it was Amie who was hitting the bear with the frying pan. Thats a brave person in my book. I have never heard any audio, I was going by what was stated in "grizzly man". Sorry for the confusion.
 
Funny somebody mentioned Haines. I've never felt scared camping anywhere until I tented in Haines during the sockeye run. So many bears.

We did see bears, and luckily enough, we were inside a Dodge at the time. The experience fishermen bailed out of there, but the tourists all crowded around and shot lots of film. At dusk. With flash.
 
LoL... Your pink pantie rant made my day. You and Mr. Kodak must have been very good friends.... ;) I never said I don't get things wrong in the wilderness (although I rarely do, My life kinda depends on that) Mr. Kodak was a moron...


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No, you just come across as one of those elitist pricks that look down at other people when they make a mistake, as if you don't make any. Have a little respect for the dead, he probably had people that loved and cared for him and you piss on his grave.

Anyway, I'm sure this won't get through to your brain and you'll continue on trying to insult me, it won't work.
 
No, you just come across as one of those elitist pricks that look down at other people when they make a mistake, as if you don't make any. Have a little respect for the dead, he probably had people that loved and cared for him and you piss on his grave.

Anyway, I'm sure this won't get through to your brain and you'll continue on trying to insult me, it won't work.

LoL... You started the insult flinging @ me sir.. I am far from elitist, and I most certainly do make mistakes (like right now; issuing a retort to the likes of your post)... OMFG how wrong you are there ... Elitist... Bahahaha wait till I show my friends your post calling me an elitist.. YOU SIR HAVE MADE MY DAY! LoL Your fairy tale outlook of "respect the dead" is the dumbest naive thing in this world. Moron alive=dead moron, rapist alive=dead rapist, jerk alive=dead jerk, etc etc...

Ah yes, insult my inteligence ... Mmmm Hmmmm.. I realize that as soon as somone calls my inteligence into question, that I have already won the debate. Anyways have a great day and THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME LAUGH SO HARD I SNORTED MY COFFEE OUT MY NOSTRILS! Elitist.. Hahaha... I think I shall have personalized licence plate made with that just for you!
 
LoL... You started the insult flinging @ me sir.. I am far from elitist, and I most certainly do make mistakes (like right now; issuing a retort to the likes of your post)... OMFG how wrong you are there ... Elitist... Bahahaha wait till I show my friends your post calling me an elitist.. YOU SIR HAVE MADE MY DAY! LoL Your fairy tale outlook of "respect the dead" is the dumbest naive thing in this world. Moron alive=dead moron, rapist alive=dead rapist, jerk alive=dead jerk, etc etc...

Ah yes, insult my inteligence ... Mmmm Hmmmm.. I realize that as soon as somone calls my inteligence into question, that I have already won the debate. Anyways have a great day and THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME LAUGH SO HARD I SNORTED MY COFFEE OUT MY NOSTRILS! Elitist.. Hahaha... I think I shall have personalized licence plate made with that just for you!

Just put down the coffee and take some sedatives instead, you're obviously demented, how the F*** you ever got a firearms licence is beyond me, I'd send you back to the nuthouse you came out of. By the way you replied it's clear you are very immature and very high on yourself. Hope that made your day as well.

Maybe you should switch to a cold beverage.
 
Just put down the coffee and take some sedatives instead, you're obviously demented, how the F*** you ever got a firearms licence is beyond me, I'd send you back to the nuthouse you came out of. By the way you replied it's clear you are very immature and very high on yourself. Hope that made your day as well.

Maybe you should switch to a cold beverage.

LOL who's the elitist now huh? Anyways, thnx for the laugh! I shall not reply to anymore of your insane rants... I bid you good day!
 
So, this looks like the beginning of a step in the right direction, but the Gov't fell seriously short here on being able to protect oneself in some of the richest wildlife habitats in the world (ie. Canadian National Parks).

OTTAWA — Canada may not have the second amendment, but the government will soon allow some people to bear arms in national parks with polar bears.


Parks Canada announced it will be loosening restrictions in nine of its parks to allow specially licensed individuals to carry firearms for protection from polar bears. At the moment, there are significant restrictions on who may carry firearms in national parks.


"There's lots of places where people should never be in Canada as a whole without a firearm. If they need to be, or want to be, in these areas . . . it only makes sense to have a firearm," said University of Alberta biologist Andrew Derocher. "I wouldn't go into these areas without a firearm, so I don't see why other people shouldn't (carry a gun)."


Derocher is a polar bear researcher who has made numerous trips to the arctic. He said a gun wouldn't necessarily need to be used to kill the bear, but could be used to scare it off.


Parks Canada's executive director for the North, Rob Prosper, said the change to the regulation is part of an effort to improve the safety of those travelling to the nine parks designated by the agency. He said not just anyone will be able to walk into one of the parks armed to the teeth; the change is designed to benefit licensed guides and those with land claims within the parks. Researchers are also able to request a licence if a guide is unavailable to join them.


"The proposed National Parks of Canada Wild Animals Regulations will enhance the protection of wild animals in our national parks and help ensure that all visitors have a safe and positive experience," Environment Minister Peter Kent said in a statement.


Biologist John Smol of Queen's University has made 28 trips to the Arctic. Smol said he has had to use a shotgun he carries a number of times to scare off polar bears, but has never had to shoot one. One time his research team returned to the campsite, only to find a polar bear tearing a tent apart. The group was forced to fire a warning shot.


"They're beautiful animals, and the last thing you would want to do is shoot them," he said.


Smol uses a variety of other deterrents and techniques to prevent coming into contact with bears. Food is always well sealed and kept away from the campsite, alarms are set up in the event a bear crosses into the campsite and every member of his research team is armed with pepper spray. The gun is intended as a last resort.


Derocher said the bears can be very unpredictable. Sometimes they are simply curious when confronted by humans, but other times they may be hungry and searching for food. This, he said, is being exacerbated by the retreating sea ice, making it harder for bears to find food.


"On balance you're better off in a lot of these areas with a firearm. Even if they aren't used as a direct killing device, (but used) as a deterrent it gives you some flexibility to deal with situations."


The change comes as the government opened public consultations Thursday in an effort to overhaul existing regulations. The consultation will continue until the end of the year. The last time the regulations were last amended was in 1997.


National parks designated as "polar bear parks":


- Ivvavik and Vuntut national parks in the northern Yukon


- Tuktut Nogait National Park in the northern Northwest Territories


- Aulavik National Park, on Banks Island, N.W.T.


- Quttinirpaaq National Park, on Ellesmere Island, Nunavut


- Sirmilik and Auyuittuq National Parks, on Baffin Island, Nunavut


- Torngat Mountains National Park in northern Labrador


- Wapusk National Park in Manitoba, north of Churchill
 
Wow when did CGN get so many a-holes on the board? Like I said this thread is sad all around.(shaking my head at the guy, the bear and you lot!)

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
Carnivores generally have more success hunting the old, weak, or stupid members of the prey species. This guy was good to go for two out of three but didn't quite measure up in the brain department so he got thinned out of the herd. End of story - that's how the world works for the last millions of years and it wasn't actually the bear's fault. No matter how smart we get or how much technology we have, Darwin finds a way to equalize the playing field.
 
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A sad story...... dead man, grieving family members, dead bear.
Hopefully people will learn something from this sad story.

Equally sad are the egotistical a**holes calling down the man involved.
He made a mistake, and paid the highest price for his error.

To gmctech and a few others.......maturity isn't linked to age or years.
 
So, this looks like the beginning of a step in the right direction, but the Gov't fell seriously short here on being able to protect oneself in some of the richest wildlife habitats in the world (ie. Canadian National Parks).

Kluane park has no polar bear but grizz need and desserve respect.

until they change that there as Doug said you wont find me there without a gun. (so im not going there.)

gmctech,

do you have the link of that news. found it from july 2011. nothing news.
 
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