Talk me out of a Ruger Ranch rifle!

Sorry not...7600 action.


Quoted from Rem website, interesting that the 20g 870 stock, rail etc fit.

New Model 7615P Pump Action Patrol Rifle
At last, a light, handy and quick in action duty/patrol rifle using a higher capacity magazine. The Model 7615P Pump rifle, based on the rugged and reliable Model 870 shotgun, delivers first shot accuracy and ultra-fast follow-up shots as the shooter instantly chambers another round from the higher capacity magazine
 
I have a 581 series Mini that shoots 3 into 1.5" (not an Internet 1.5 MOA either). To say I was blown away with the new beefed up barrel Mini's is an understatement, best bargain going for just 850 bucks. Sure, you could get an SKS- but you'd lose the stainless, excellent detachable mags, scope rings and mounts, stock options, Ruger quality, etc. People are happily spending $3,200 on rifles that shoot the same as the new Minis (Swiss Arms), I've owned and shot both side by side and much as I hate to admit it was more impressed with the 580+ series Mini. Just want to be clear, talking about the new standard mini, not the target. Don't think the target offers much over the standard anymore.
 
Quoted from Rem website, interesting that the 20g 870 stock, rail etc fit.

As it does on all 7600s, not just the 7615P...I suspect the initial design of the 760 released in 1952, was ''roughly'' based on the 870 that was released in 1951, but the same they are not.

The Model 7615P Pump rifle, based on the rugged and reliable Model 870 shotgun,


My bet was Rem worded it wrong! It happens.

The 7615P is similar in opperation to the 870 with the cross-bolt safety behind trigger guard, slide action release at the front of the trigger guard, and is a pump gun wich makes for easy transition from the 870 for Law inforcement.. Thats all!!Still based on the 7600.

I have yet to see an 870 with rotating bolt that locks into the barrel extension, and a detatch mag

A quote from American Rifleman Mag.

''Remington’s Law Enforcement Division is offering two Duty/Patrol variants of the 7600 rifle: the 7600P in .308 Win. and the 7615P in .223 Rem., tested here. The 7615P is available through any distributor that carries Remington’s law enforcement line''.

www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=1489&cid=7
 
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Thanks for the thoughts and opinions, and the idea of the Remington 7615 is also a good one.
Sadly the SKS is no good due to my range having a steelcore ban which excludes most surplus ammunition, plus here in southern Ontario I'm limited to .270 and under- besides I already reload for the .223 Rem.
 
I have a 581 series Mini that shoots 3 into 1.5" (not an Internet 1.5 MOA either). To say I was blown away with the new beefed up barrel Mini's is an understatement, best bargain going for just 850 bucks. Sure, you could get an SKS- but you'd lose the stainless, excellent detachable mags, scope rings and mounts, stock options, Ruger quality, etc. People are happily spending $3,200 on rifles that shoot the same as the new Minis (Swiss Arms), I've owned and shot both side by side and much as I hate to admit it was more impressed with the 580+ series Mini. Just want to be clear, talking about the new standard mini, not the target. Don't think the target offers much over the standard anymore.

Thanks Ardent...that's really good to hear. :)
 
Buy the Ranch Mini, you will not regret.

I love mine. Swapped out the expensive scope for a nice little 4x. Very, very accurate at 100 yards.

The biggest thing is that she responds very nicely to quality ammo. Feed her the cheap stuff, and the groupings tend to open up. I feed mine 55 vmax and 55 noslers. You will see a difference. I an totally impressed with how she also responds nicely to the 50 gr varmint grenades.

The only negative thing I can say, is that she love to throw brass (just like a wife with a temper). At the range I have to put up a blind, otherwise the shooter two table s down will get hot brass on the neck.

Mine is a keeper and from my previous posts, not as keen on the target version. But that's my honest opinion.

Here's a pic of the little darlin' with her new 4x scope. I think she looks a little trimmer now. :D ;)

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I would only buy the new target version. I have had a couple of the Ranch rifles. Blued and stainless and they don't really do it for me. Sure they are nice looking and fun to shoot. But at the end of the day, when you're spending that much cash you should be getting something with a little more accuracy.

My SKS and M14 but are far more accurate and I could buy an M14 and two SKS's for the price of a Mini.
 
I would only buy the new target version. I have had a couple of the Ranch rifles. Blued and stainless and they don't really do it for me. Sure they are nice looking and fun to shoot. But at the end of the day, when you're spending that much cash you should be getting something with a little more accuracy.

Prior to owning my current Mini, I bought the target version, brand new right out of the box. Four weeks later, I got rid of it. About two months later, I missed the action so I bought a "plain-jane" ranch, as pictured above. The only modifications were to add the scope and replace the hand guard with one from accuracy systems. It was a cosmetic thing.

The reason I got rid of the target was for the following reasons:

1) The rifle barrel is NOT consistently heavy. From the chamber to the gas port, the barrel dimensions are identical to the ranch rifle. After the gas port, the barrel then gets heavy.

2) The tuner on the end, does work. Just don't switch out ammo. Mine show DRAMATIC differences between 40 gr vmax, 50 gr vmax, 55 gr bulk, 55 noslers, 50 gr noslers, win white box 45 gr and rem umc 45 gr. I'm talking about opposite ends of the target between the between the bullets.

3) The tuner is quite picky. A half turn would shift my grouping as much as 6" in 100 yards. Never mind switching ammo.

4) It took a while to heat up the bull barrel portion. When that got hot, the portion from the thinner part of the barrel from the chamber to the gas port was smokin' hot. The result, wandering groups - just like my mini and m14 when they get hot.

5) The rifle itself weighed considerably more. Shooting gophers got to be a little tiring to carry. A bipod could have solved.

6) My frustration with the dampener was the main reason. If anyone were to ask me, I would, in all honesty report that my experience with it convinced me that it was a complete waste of money.

Mine mini, with the 4x scope shoots all kinds of ammo. no matter what kind, I am consistently hitting 12" gongs at 300 yards. In coyote terms, that's a hit. At 100 yards, depending on the ammo, 2.5" to 1.5" is the norm. I can fluke smaller groups with a benchrest and 55 noslers or varmint grenades, but all-in-all the rifle is a keeper. :D
 
Prior to owning my current Mini, I bought the target version, brand new right out of the box. Four weeks later, I got rid of it. About two months later, I missed the action so I bought a "plain-jane" ranch, as pictured above. The only modifications were to add the scope and replace the hand guard with one from accuracy systems. It was a cosmetic thing.

The reason I got rid of the target was for the following reasons:

1) The rifle barrel is NOT consistently heavy. From the chamber to the gas port, the barrel dimensions are identical to the ranch rifle. After the gas port, the barrel then gets heavy.

2) The tuner on the end, does work. Just don't switch out ammo. Mine show DRAMATIC differences between 40 gr vmax, 50 gr vmax, 55 gr bulk, 55 noslers, 50 gr noslers, win white box 45 gr and rem umc 45 gr. I'm talking about opposite ends of the target between the between the bullets.

3) The tuner is quite picky. A half turn would shift my grouping as much as 6" in 100 yards. Never mind switching ammo.

4) It took a while to heat up the bull barrel portion. When that got hot, the portion from the thinner part of the barrel from the chamber to the gas port was smokin' hot. The result, wandering groups - just like my mini and m14 when they get hot.

5) The rifle itself weighed considerably more. Shooting gophers got to be a little tiring to carry. A bipod could have solved.

6) My frustration with the dampener was the main reason. If anyone were to ask me, I would, in all honesty report that my experience with it convinced me that it was a complete waste of money.

Mine mini, with the 4x scope shoots all kinds of ammo. no matter what kind, I am consistently hitting 12" gongs at 300 yards. In coyote terms, that's a hit. At 100 yards, depending on the ammo, 2.5" to 1.5" is the norm. I can fluke smaller groups with a benchrest and 55 noslers or varmint grenades, but all-in-all the rifle is a keeper. :D

Some of the reasons why I don't have one. I've had the chance a couple of times to pick up the target version for $550 and $600.
 
I've had a lightly used 580 series Ranch rifle for just over a week now and here are my primary observations with approx 100 rounds in.

Rifle is bone stock and the only modification I'm playing with is an adjustment to the gas block bushing, because you should see this thing fire the brass out! The brass is lightly dented halfway down the case and will end up some 25 feet away, not good seeing as I reload- but if I can reduce the gas and bring the ejection down to a more reasonable level then that would be a positive improvement.

Now- I've read on multiple forums that these rifles are inaccurate. Accuracy of course is a very subjective term, but shooting from the bench last sunday with the stock iron sights (peep rear and blade front) I was holding five shot groups into four inches consistantly- and when really taking my time (not blasting away) then I achieved a couple of three inch groups. To be honest I don't see what all the fuss is about with these rifles being inaccurate.. Shortly I'll figure out what it really likes to eat in terms of reloading and maybe improve more.

Conclusion: I wanted a fast handling and light rifle capable of short, up close hunting with the option of reaching out if needed. Just found my new Coyote gun. :)
 
Conclusion: I wanted a fast handling and light rifle capable of short, up close hunting with the option of reaching out if needed. Just found my new Coyote gun. :)

Welcome to the club. If it any help, had my wife out yesterday at the range. She wanted to shoot my SA's in cowboy loads, and then use her favorite - my mini-14, as pictured earlier.

With UMC 45 gr, she was putting them into 3" groups, when she tried. Otherwise, she was having fun hitting the target until her ammo ran out and it was dark.

It's a keeper, she will not LET me sell it....ever! ;)
 
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