Talley Rings - Junk?

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Have a look at this.. Talley rings on a Dakota .375.

This was a VERY rarely shot rifle. Noticed the scope was a little loose. Further inspection revealed ALL of the screws had snapped.

These were steel rings, not UL aluminum. These are the "signature" screw lock detachable rings if I recall.

I get the .375 has some significant recoil, but this isn't the first time they've failed for me.

What are you thoughts? I used to hold Talley is high regard, but can't say I trust them enough to give them another chance.

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I have them in aluminum on my 300 win mag with no issue. Were they torqued correctly? I lap my rings and torque them to spec. I could see with steel rings and little screws getting them over tight and causing screw problems. Its super easy to over do it with little #6 screws.
 
These specifically were put on by the smith who built the gun.. so I can only assume they were torqued right.

But who knows, perhaps that was the issue. Can't say i've ever had this happen with any other rings i've used though. From cheap Weavers to top tier manufacturers.

The others on the .300WSM caused some significant scratching to a 2.5k S&B scope.. added insult to injury.

Lesson learned though that's for sure.
 
im on my way to remove the talley rings that i had on tikkas t3s 243 and 308 mine were the alloys ones... one set got loose with no reasons and i do not trust them following that thread. back to steel with weaver bases.

they will here on EE for good price. thanks OP to bring up that issue.
 
I am kind of with double gun, I think - so who makes the screws for Talley? And who makes the screws for any other brand of ring? It was the screws that failed, not the rings!!

I am not an expert but I think pictures are showing three of the four screws that the heads popped off the threaded section??

And I think most would be very curious to hear what Talley had to say about this failure of their product?
 
In Talley's deference, they have honored their warranty and sending new two new sets of rings. Can't fault them for warranty service.

Both sets were purchased from the same batch and both ended up with snapped screws. Installed by two separate smiths, who both confirmed they would have torqued the screws to spec. You are guys indeed right, the rings are fine. The screws may have been a bad heat treat and that's as good an explanation as any.

One set was on a Dakota .375 that I would have had no hesitation to take to Africa or Alaska. Based on my experience, I can't trust Talley when the hunt of a lifetime is on the line. Not to mention if something with bigger claws and teeth than I have meant to do me harm.

Speaking for myself, I've been hunting for 30+ years, have been around friends who have been hunting longer than I've been alive. We've done our fair share of shooting, been in rough condition, had guns and cases dropped from a plane to the tarmac etc. This is the only experience i've had with that type of failure. Maybe lucks always been on my side, but would you given them another chance?

I'll put the replacements to good use on a .22.
 
I have used Talleys on everything from 458 wm to 22 they have always preformed perfectly.
I like the fact that the base is the bottom part of the ring .
 
I've used lots of Talley rings, both steel and aluminum versions. Never any issues really. I have been using the new Vortex Pro series rings when I want to use a rail for more flexibility in mounting and have been very happy with them as well.

FWIW, on a short action, an aluminum rail with the new aluminum vortex pro series rings will weigh about 2oz more than the Talley 1-piece lightweight alloy rings so not a huge weight penalty for the extra mounting flexibility.
 
guntech said:
Obviously some bad heat treating and/or machining on the screws... probably just that batch...
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Nope, I have a set of Talley vertically split rings that the lower screw broke on.
Was properly installed on a .270Wby Ultra-lightweight. Thought the scope crapped out and discovered the broken screw during disassembly.
 
I have also seen that before with Talley. A Sako 338W ... my hunting pal was effusive about Talley when he bought them....then he wasnt and never talked about them again. I guess folks are right to blame the failure on the screws .... OTOH the rings dont work without screws....so the issue is moot in my view
 
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