Talley Rings - Junk?

I notice that people love it when something relatively expensive like Talley rings can be claimed to be junk.
Another excuse to use cheap Weavers and the like.

I'll buy all the junk steel Talleys. No problem. Just send me a description and a price.

(also...snapped screws were relatively common on Original Sako rings...apparently from overtightening.)
 
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Rob said:
I notice that people love it when something relatively expensive like Talley rings can be claimed to be junk.
Another excuse to use cheap Weavers and the like.

I'll buy all the junk steel Talleys. No problem. Just send me a description and a price.

(also...snapped screws were relatively common on Original Sako rings...apparently from overtightening.)
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what about the alloy ones?
 
freddyfour said:
I just ordered my second set of light weight Talley rings. They seem as good as any others i have ever used.
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They aren't. I've personally seen two sets of Talley LWs crack. One at the base screws. The other top ring half cracked at the screws. Both installed with torque limiting screwdrivers.

I like the Talley steel rings, they are a good fit on a classy rig. But I quit using the LWs after my buddy's cracked.
 
Burris Signature rings have worked well for me. Sako rings seem to have soft(er) screws (specifically the slotted head screws) and EAW are dependably tough IMO
 
SuperCub said:
I've never had any problems with cheap Weavers or similar quality derivatives as long as I did my part not to screw them up.
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I gave up on Weaver when I realized that their "Grand Slam" rings will fit ordinary Weaver bases but with only a very slight and potentially very dangerous engagement of the locking surfaces. I returned my Grand Slam rings to Weaver, USA with an explanation and they gave me my money back. I can't believe they haven't been sued yet.
 
US made product or not fasteners are almost always an import item and subject to the lowest bidder. I bought a set of Leupold QD rings a few years back and the fasteners were completely unusable with miss stamped heads and poor threads. To be fair they MOQ on those small screws is probably 10 000 in order for them to to turn any kind of profit so with those margins there is bound to be a serious lack of QA control.

As for aluminum rings; top straps specifically, I find aluminum to be lacking when put in tension (like the top strap of a ring) it seems to be much better suit to compression or shock loads. For those reasons I usually buy steel rings, I don’t think the weight savings is great enough to bother.
 
I've had several sets of Talley LW's over the past 3 years with no failures so far.
But I do appreciate the thread, as I will keep a very close look on them from now on.
 
I've used talley one piece rings for several x-bolts and a t-bolt as they are sharp looking and have had no issues, but tend to go with burris steel rings if I'm mounting an optic on something with a bit of recoil.
 
Seems to be a lot of claims that the screws were over torqued.

If a qualified gunsmith (in this case two) assures me that they would have been torqued to spec, not sure what else to say in order to validate they were properly torqued.

As I mentioned above.. the rings themselves are fine. But if a manufacturer uses cheap screws, perhaps not hardened properly (or over hardened) then that's no good either.

I've learned from this thread that my situation is not unique, and a few people have reported similar failures. I suppose we can all assume that everyone who had failures were over-torqueing if that makes Talley fans sleep better at night.

I'm not trying to arbitrarily bash anyone's favorite rings, heck they used to be my ring of choice. Im just sharing my experience.
 
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