Talley Rings - Junk?

[guntech]

I have never been a fan of Talley rings, I prefer Leupold Dual Dovetail rings on two piece bases for a hunting rig... a few ounces extra don't matter to me...

I get a kick out of guys who buy a fairly light rifle and insist on lightweight Talley mounts and then add a monster scope...

 

[todbartell]

I've mounted thousands of Talley aluminum rings in the last 15 years. Seen a few failures but that happens with anything

 

[jerstilly]

I am not a fan of Talley myself, they may have been over torqued, one thing people dont realize is that some torque specs are for dry fasteners, and once you put loctite on them they are now lubricated and the applied torque is now a great deal higher using the same torque applied, be very careful of this.

 

[SuperCub]

I gave up on Weaver when I realized that their "Grand Slam" rings will fit ordinary Weaver bases but with only a very slight and potentially very dangerous engagement of the locking surfaces. I returned my Grand Slam rings to Weaver, USA with an explanation and they gave me my money back. I can't believe they haven't been sued yet.

I've had better luck with the std Weaver rings and others like the Burris Signature and Leupold PRS.

 

[Buckmastr]

The OP rings look like the talley quick release jobs. I havent used much of those but the fixed steel (one screw at the top) and the lightweights have given me absolutely no issues whatsoever.

 

[Rob]

Again...Not interested in the aluminum Talley rings, but seriously... I will buy any unwanted "junk" Talley steel rings.

By the way, if you really want to get into Quick-Detach Talley bashing, then I recommend Terry Wieland's (not so great) book Great Hunting Rifles.

 

[Blastattack]

I gave up on Weaver when I realized that their "Grand Slam" rings will fit ordinary Weaver bases but with only a very slight and potentially very dangerous engagement of the locking surfaces. I returned my Grand Slam rings to Weaver, USA with an explanation and they gave me my money back. I can't believe they haven't been sued yet.

Uh... what part of any scope mount could be considered dangerous, and what on earth would they be sued for?

 

[Rob]

Uh... what part of any scope mount could be considered dangerous, and what on earth would they be sued for?

Check out the fit of steel Weaver Grand Slam rings on standard aluminum Weaver bases. They fit and lock down but are held on by only the slightest engagement of surfaces at the very edges. It is as if they read the engineering drawings backwards, or topologically inverted. The mounts are ready to fail (and I am sure some have) precisely because of their design, hence the possibility of a lawsuit in the USA. Hopefully the scope will fly forward off the rifle instead of into your eye.

 

[medvedqc]

the problem is putting alloy on steel maybe ...

 

[Blastattack]

the problem is putting alloy on steel maybe ...

Why do people keep using the word Alloy to refer to aluminum? Nearly all modern metals are an alloy. Steel is an alloy, brass is an alloy, aluminum (in nearly every useful form) is an alloy. Sometimes you find pure substances that are not alloyed with anything, but that is very rare.

If you asking is galvanic corrosion is occurring, that is doubtful and would be obvious. There would be rust on the steel parts and the aluminum would no longer be smooth. The anodizing also effectively protects the aluminum from corrosion, and aluminum isn’t very susceptible to corrosion anyways. At least not susceptible to the environments that most guns face.

 

[Rob]

Why do people keep using the word Alloy to refer to aluminum?

I think people use the term "alloy" instead of aluminum simply because it is easier than typing "aluminum alloy". You can't just use the word "aluminum", because there are so many different "aluminums". As just one example consider the difference between the very hard aluminum alloy used in an HVA trigger guard and the familiar soft alloy called "aluminum" available as stock at Princess Auto or Canadian Tire.

As a metallurgy primer for non-specialist gun owners, I recommend the book, "Fighting Iron: A Metals Handbook for Arms Collectors, 1990 by Art Gogan. It's a bit uneven, but a useful introduction.