tanfoglio witness elite pro

vince514

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Hey guys

I was just looking around for around for a 9mm pistol with steel frame(was looking at cz shadow2,tanfos or any other cz variant like iwi jericho)

and i just felt on this.

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Im very picky when it comes to the cz variant look and i cant decide which one i like the most.. Really dig the jericho but the short barrel doesnt make it for me.
Would like a long slide version of the jericho. Also stumbled upon sarsilmaz kilinc 2000 too looks really good IMO.

I really like that Elite pro or sarsilmaz kilinc 2000

Any chance i can find one somewhere on this planet?

Thanks

Vince
 
Looks like a Tanfoglio/CZ clone but I couldn't find any reviews on it other than it's Turkish made and no aftermarket upgrade parts.

Got a chance to handle one. Very solid, nice looking and all steel but the trigger sucked. Some sites advertise a 2 pound trigger, other say 4 pounds. My guess it's supposed to be 2 kg but it felt heavier than that. Lack of parts would concern me also. If the gun had a good trigger like a CZ Tactical Sport and parts were available they would be a very good deal. Until then they are overpriced for what you're getting.
 
Got a chance to handle one. Very solid, nice looking and all steel but the trigger sucked. Some sites advertise a 2 pound trigger, other say 4 pounds. My guess it's supposed to be 2 kg but it felt heavier than that. Lack of parts would concern me also. If the gun had a good trigger like a CZ Tactical Sport and parts were available they would be a very good deal. Until then they are overpriced for what you're getting.

Yeah, figured as much. Unless the guts were an exact copy and took Tanfoglio or CZ parts to tune it up.
 
I like the looks of the Stock 2 without the rail but I'd go with Australian length barrel model. Not sure if 8mm of additional sight radius makes a huge difference but the added weight might help a little with recoil/muzzle flip.

Shadow 2 is a cheaper copy of the Stock III. Between the two, the Shadow 2 would be the better buy seeing that you can find them under $1200. these days. A few spring upgrades and you're good to go. Keep in mind, if you're one that does the slingshot or over hand slide racking via the rear of the slide, the angled slide design might be a bit awkward/frustrating to get a grip on. If you normally use the front of the slide to rack, you're good to go.

Can't comment on the Limited Pro but I think I'd want the extra mass of a full length dust cover (and I prefer the look too) but that's just me.
 
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can someone give me more details differences on bull/cone barrel? even match barrels. please.

Mainly more weight up front with the bull/coned barrel. Some suggest that a tighter barrel-to-frame lockup is possible with the coned barrel, but even if that is the case, I have not seen anything to suggest it results in greater accuracy. Maybe there is info out there that i have not seen. It is my understanding that the 'full' lock up at the front of the barrel (ie around the entire circumference) is not a key part of that design. Even the highest-end Tanfoglio 6" bullseye guns don't use coned barrels. They look cool though and I like the added weight.
 
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