Tap & Die Set

Not discussing sheet metal screws. Discussing using hardware store crap on firearms. Not sure why you keep bringing that up, unless it is to be willfully stupid or just obstinate.

If you get mail, and have internet access (even if it IS a half hour drive to town to use a public access location) you can get appropriate fasteners, and have them in hand if you plan a bit ahead.

Get a Brownells catalog, if you don't have it already. There is a great amount of info regarding the size of screw threads most often used. If you don't buy from them, at least they were good enough to put the info together in print, so you can see what you should be using.

Nothing elegant about a Farmer Hack. It's still a hack. And every Farmer hack I've ever seen, caused someone a headache down the road.

Elegant solutions don't leave the next guy wondering WTF, at what you did.

Nothing proprietary about most screws used on modern Firearms, esp. for scope mounting, etc. The thread sizes and pitches were chosen for their suitability and strength. The helix angle of the finer pitch thread reduces the tendency to work loose, and the minor diameter of the fastener is larger, making the screw stronger.
Brownells is a convenient source, but not the sole source by a long shot.

As far as "need a screw, got one" goes, put yourself in the place of the fella that actually has the correct materials in hand, and finds that he must first fix his way past the bodge, to get on with his day. Not gonna be a happy customer.

Lots of guns have been fixed by guys that thought pipe wrenches and a bench vice were an elegant fix too.

Suit yourself. For me, I'll stick to using appropriate tools, where it involves a permanent change to the firearm, and use due care.

Not sayin' I have not done the odd hack job, but I save them for rescuing stuff like a stripped scope ring thread or something that was otherwise doomed from the get-go. Not for drilling and tapping a receiver when I was not willing to wait for the proper hardware or tools.

Cheers
Trev
 
Again with the scope mount...lol

Best of luck. I respect your "puritan" side and, opinions as expressed. I have read much from you by way of "metalurgical trivia" and, look forward to more.

I also express regrets for the "guy down the road" who is also a puritan and, has to suffer through figuring out that, "Hey...this screw is a bit too common" to be anywhere near a gun.

I love the farmer analogy best as, they tend to be a bit more practical in the application of soloutions, in the field, with a view to having to do it all over again.
 
Get a set from Canadian Tire, they are great for general use. Believe it or not, I have used a die from this set to make new action screws for a Savage rifle (1/4-28).
As for "gunscrew" taps, buy the best you can afford. Do not scrimp on them. If you use them for a steady diet of receiver tapping, set a number for them and throw them out after that many holes.
 
Hi Gang

Thanx again to all.

Wound up getting these:

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As long as they're listed in Brownell's...

Ok seriously, good on you! Drill n' tap everything now that you can. You'll find, you have more use for tools once you have 'em. Not just gun-stuff either.

I'm pretty content holding my scope down with deck screws....insert wee-titter! I found with my first tap set, they were invaluable for cleaning pre-existing holes however, before I got 'em, I'd just "do" with what I had.
 
Buy the best you can afford. Brand names mean something when you are talking about tooling. Some manufacturers have several different quality levels of taps. Personally I have found OSG(Japanese) and Blue Wizard(English) to be really good.
 
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