Target ammo?

Prophet River or Cabelas usually and we get discounted prices on ammo from Silver Willow Sporting Clays on bulk orders....PR currently has Remington Gun Clubs at the same price as Cabelas sale price this week...
 
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I usually get 20 flats or so of Kent sporting clays loads every spring from Prophet River, but with no Kent target loads this year, I cleaned out most of their Remington STS loads that were on sale. Their Gun Clubs likely won't last long, so that leaves the Gun Clubs on sale at Cabelas. Even the Challengers are now $110 at Cabelas.
 
Our local sporting clays field is now selling target loads at $130/flat tax in, and a member can only purchase the amount of ammunition that you have targets for, if you purchase 1000 targets, you can purchase four flats of ammunition. Last year the price was $110/flat, the year before it was $85/flat, just to show how the cost has gone up in just two years. I just ordered another 8 flats of the Remington STS loads from Prophet River, if I am going to pay the same price , I might as well shoot premium loads, and list the fired hulls to try and recover some of the cost. And I now have enough for at least this year and next year. And I just found another 5000 Federal primers to load 410 for skeet.
 
stubblejumper said:
Our local sporting clays field is now selling target loads at $130/flat tax in, and a member can only purchase the amount of ammunition that you have targets for, if you purchase 1000 targets, you can purchase four flats of ammunition. Last year the price was $110/flat, the year before it was $85/flat, just to show how the cost has gone up in just two years. I just ordered another 8 flats of the Remington STS loads from Prophet River, if I am going to pay the same price , I might as well shoot premium loads, and list the fired hulls to try and recover some of the cost. And I now have enough for at least this year and next year. And I just found another 5000 Federal primers to load 410 for skeet.
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I think it may be time for you to look at reloading the 12ga again
Seems it may be worth it now
Cheers
 
3macs1 said:
I think it may be time for you to look at reloading the 12ga again
Seems it may be worth it now
Cheers
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To buy shot, powder, primers and wads here in Alberta, it would cost me $110 -$120 per flat to load 1 ounce 12 gauge loads, if I could even find powder and primers, which have disappeared. So I could save $10-20 per flat at most compared to what I just paid for the STS loads. So with a new MEC 9000 around $1000 shipped out here, I am looking at breaking even in 4-8 years using an average of 12 -14 flats per year of 12 gauge. That isn't worthwhile to me, I will use my primers for 410 and 28 gauge that save me $60 or more per flat by reloading. I will review the situation in about 3 years, when I use up the 12 gauge target loads that I have accumulated.

I just had a fellow skeet shoot offer to purchase my STS hulls for $25/250, so that brings my cost down to less than I could load for. The guy buying the hulls can save money, because he makes his own shot.
 
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stubblejumper said:
To buy shot, powder, primers and wads here in Alberta, it would cost me $110 -$120 per flat to load 1 ounce 12 gauge loads, if I could even find powder and primers, which have disappeared. So I could save $10-20 per flat at most compared to what I just paid for the STS loads. So with a new MEC 9000 around $1000 shipped out here, I am looking at breaking even in 4-8 years using an average of 12 -14 flats per year of 12 gauge. That isn't worthwhile to me, I will use my primers for 410 and 28 gauge that save me $60 or more per flat by reloading. I will review the situation in about 3 years, when I use up the 12 gauge target loads that I have accumulated.

I just had a fellow skeet shoot offer to purchase my STS hulls for $25/250, so that brings my cost down to less than I could load for. The guy buying the hulls can save money, because he makes his own shot.
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Understand. I assumed you still had your 12ga loader and a good stash of stuff
Take care
 
We just has a pallet of 52 cases of this load dropped off today. We will have pricing ASAP:
Winchester - 12 Ga 2.75" - 1oz - Shot 8 - Super-Target - Xtra-Lite Target Load - 25ct - TRGTL128

EDIT: $10.63
 
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I shot at a DU shoot yesterday, and the facility owner mentioned that lately they have had a problem with people using field loads larger than #7-1/2, at the facility, which presents a safety issue. Apparently the cost/shortage of target loads, has led to some people disposing of old lead shot hunting loads , by using them to shoot clays.
 
stubblejumper said:
I shot at a DU shoot yesterday, and the facility owner mentioned that lately they have had a problem with people using field loads larger than #7-1/2, at the facility, which presents a safety issue. Apparently the cost/shortage of target loads, has led to some people disposing of old lead shot hunting loads , by using them to shoot clays.
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Before covid, my club had an issue with a couple of members using field loads on the sporting clays course and even found a couple of "Bismuth" hulls at the five stand!!
 
Not condoning field loads but other than the fact that most field loads use shot size smaller than #7 1/2 it's all about control . If a club has enough property to keep the shot in field loads on the property and you are shooting for fun what has field ammo to do with safety? I follow the rules with ammo at my clubs but I often wonder if you get shot with a duck load will it kill you anymore dead than a trap load. I reload my clay loads often with field load markings and put them in the dumpster after my shoot and anyone that can afford Bismuth for clays has a hell of lot more money than me. Gun handling safety is the most important factor I have more than once seen a shooter step off of a clays stand with a loaded gun what has shot size got to do with that carless move ?
 
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Shooting anything other than the loads specified in the range license, risks the loss of the range.
What an ignorant, self indulgent move.
 
saskbooknut said:
Shooting anything other than the loads specified in the range license, risks the loss of the range.
What an ignorant, self indulgent move.
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Please share where that is a legal requirement for the licence. We have shot 10ga 16yard trap prior to bird season many times, pattern out loads there all of them and fired 1000's of rounds of old lead hunting loads to get the hulls so we can reload steel. Or is it just something the range puts in place themselves
Just curious

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-212/FullText.html
 
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Let me clarify my earlier response. The club that I was speaking about has a 3 dram or less rule, target shells only, shot size restrictions and the club has noise concerns and falling shot concerns on neighboring properties, which has caused grief in the past. So if you're caught doing what I've mentioned, it's clearly stated in the rules, that those actions are grounds for dismissal. Perhaps I should of said hunting loads instead of field and or game loads, I guessed that most people would think hunting loads as in field hunting. So the hulls I was talking about were 3" Winchester double XX magnum BB's in 12ga, 2 3/4" Winchester field or game lead in #2's and 3" Bismuth number 5 in 20 gauge. So the XX BB's are 1 7/8 oz & 4 dram right there grounds for dismissal. So the field/game # 2's, yeah those 2's are bigger pellets than the 7.5 shot that is the maximum and maybe those are 3 1/4 dram?, again grounds for dismissal. Now the 20 ga number 5 Bismuth. It's a 2 3/4" shell with MAX dram rating. As stated earlier safe gun handling is the most important factor.
 
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Let me clarify my earlier response. The club that I was speaking about has a 3 dram or less rule, target shells only, shot size restrictions and the club has noise concerns and falling shot concerns on neighboring properties, which has caused grief in the past. So if you're caught doing what I've mentioned, it's clearly stated in the rules, that those actions are grounds for dismissal. Perhaps I should of said hunting loads instead of field and or game loads, I guessed that most people would think hunting loads as in field hunting. So the hulls I was talking about were 3" Winchester double XX magnum BB's in 12ga, 2 3/4" Winchester field or game lead in #2's and 3" Bismuth number 5 in 20 gauge. So the XX BB's are 1 7/8 oz & 4 dram right there grounds for dismissal. So the field/game # 2's, yeah those 2's are bigger pellets than the 7.5 shot that is the maximum and maybe those are 3 1/4 dram?, again grounds for dismissal. Now the 20 ga number 5 Bismuth. It's a 2 3/4" shell with MAX dram rating. As stated earlier safe gun handling is the most important factor.
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You are correct the shot has to stay on club property but cfo mandates the #7 1/2 3 1/4 dram rule but in some cases the hunting load is not a safety issue in my opinion but I follow the rules .
 
3macs1 said:
Please share where that is a legal requirement for the licence. We have shot 10ga 16yard trap prior to bird season many times, pattern out loads there all of them and fired 1000's of rounds of old lead hunting loads to get the hulls so we can reload steel. Or is it just something the range puts in place themselves
Just curious

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-212/FullText.html
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The safety area templates for Trap, Skeet and Sporting Clays are laid out based on shot size, and a maximum velocity of 1300 fps (396m/s) - Range Design Guidelines
Any clay target range that I frequent, has a shot size of 71/2, 8 or 9 specified in the license conditions.
 
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