Target/Plinking slug info Pls...?

Nice looking rifle.As far as shooting prb,I would try a light load ,such as 25gr ff.
I have an original rifle,45 cal 1 in 28 twist, and it's a tack driver with 15 gr fff.
For plinking I use 25 gr ff in my 54 cal, and my uses 20 gr fff in her 50 cal.
Are roundball readily available in you area?If not I could give you a few, along with some patches and lube.
Cheers nessy.
 
Hey nessy Ive got a gun shop in town that will cover all my blackpowder needs and more. No short supply on balls or powder.
Im just concerned CVA suggested not using them. It wouldnt be a saftey concern would it? You use round ball in your 1:28 with great results?
Mabey their warning is a money grab?
 
I can't think why they would say that , other than the rate of twist is fast.
Smaller calibres use a 1 in 28 twist.
Any way to contact CVA and ask about shooting prb ?
The old girl was made around 1830.2 5/8" offhand @ 50yds.
 
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Nessy357:

Thanks for jumping in here!! I thought it is important that the boys here from some else than myself!! LOL!!

IanC said:
Bad news I think. I was reading my manual a little closer and realize that i gave some incorrect information. I have a 24 inch barrel with a 1:28 twist. The manual suggests i not use balls since my twist is much to fast.

IanC:

This is not bad news at all, as a matter of fact there are some encouraging developments here.
Fist off, you took the time to read you manual more than once, and lest face it, this black powder stuff is about being in the “know”!!

That being said, IT IS MY OPINION that CVA includes that, as it is a common misconception that round balls will not shoot well out of fast twist BP rife. This statement is GENIALLY, only true if you use medium to large charges of powder. What happens, is that because a round ball is lighter than you average conical in 50 Cal (177grain or so vs 380 grains plus) the lesser weight cause the ball to move at a high velocity and the ball ends up skipping over the rifling, giving very poor accuracy if any. However, if we lower the velocity, the rifling has a chance to grip the patch/ball combination, give acceptable accuracy and trajectory for target shooting/plinking purposes.

Pay close attention to the advice that nessy357 gave you. He knows what he is talking about!!

If after trying his advice, you are still not satisfied, you do have another alternative; that is to shoot conicals. There are a plethora of designs to shoot. With a twist that fast, you will want shoot conicals that are long for their caliber, in this case I would think a conical at least an inch long (which is twice .50 cal). (Feel free to jump in here nessy if you disagree of have other thoughts to add)

Now you may say conicals are expensive, and that is true, if you buy them off the shelf, and you may wish to do that until you find a design your rifle likes to shoot. However if you cast your own, the cost comes down a lot!! Lets face it, there is nothing like Anchoring a target (paper or live) with projectiles you have made yourself!!

Casting can be another hobby all on its own, but there are few BP shoots that either cast their own currently, or have do so in the not so distant past. Lyman has a great manual on the subject, and Lee offers affordable molds for the beginner and expert alike!!

Another book that I believe every BP enthusiast should read, is the one by Sam Faldala. The name escapes me right now, but this is a wealth of information, and a good read. I personally have read mine 3 or 4 times. While I don’t agree with everything Sam wrote, there is a lot of good info in this book, further it sheds different light on many aspects of BP, and can lead to some good, safe, experimentation.

I hope you have found this helpful, and please keep the questions coming if you have anymore. There is a lot of knowledge here, and unlike many other sports, most shooters with experince are willing to share.
Regards and all the best

R
 
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I received an email from CVA about ball and patch. All the rep said is that due to the 1:28 rifling i will have accuracy issues. But as nessy states he does not have this problem with low charges. Im going to get some balls/patches and a good measuring tube and try some low power loads and see how things work out. Thanks for all the information I have taken it all to heart.
Dont worry Im not afraid to ask questions or admit when im wrong.
I will be happy to post em as i think of them.
Thanks for all the help guys the amount of detail of your responses has been invaluable. If anyone wants to send me some more info on low volume charges either PM me or contact me at dansik_ca@hotmail.com
Again Thank you thank you thank you!!!
 
The other thing you might try is.....use the volumetric pwder dispenser and set it for a charge, throw 5 of them (weighting each on a grain scale) and throw the average......My Traditions E-209 was shooting 465gr homecasts into about 3-4" @ 100 yds and I weighed my charges on a scale and found that I was up to 3gr off in some loads....But after weighing the charges and finding the sweet load I cut the first two shots and the third went a hair over 1/2" to the 11 O'clock. I realize this post is kinda off topic but it also appears as a hi-Jak...My bad, just wanted to share.
 
I know that this thread is old but I can't help but to contribute.

CVA doesn't recommend anything other than powerbelts bullets...........
Why...because they make them!!

Stuff a patched ball down there with a reduced charge. You won't print worth a damn @ 100, but that's not the point. You will still smash gophers & pop cans without breaking the bank.
 
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