Target Rifle

Glenn Kelley

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Hi, I'm looking for information about a double barreled rifle Marked 'G.Welshofer,Brantford CW".
Each barrel has its own sights,percussion,and set up like a Scheutzen rifle .I'm guessing it is .36 caliber.

Thanks . Glenn
 
As you are aware, Welshofer was a gunmaker in Brantford.
Canadian made rifles are not common. Canadian made double rifles are very rare. It would have been made to order. It sounds as if you have encountered a very unusual piece.
Photographs would be appreciated.
 
Not only are the rifles rare, but getting information on the makers is exceedingly difficult - would like to see pictures as well!
 
Very little information about George Welshofer in Gooding's book. Known to have worked n Brantford 1861-1865. Hence the CW (Canada West), predating Confederation.
 
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Here are some photos of the rifle.
It is a double barreled hunting rifle. Rather than having the barrels regulated to use a single set of sights, each barrel has its own set. Easier way of approaching sighting a double.
It looks to be in very fine condition.
As I suggested in post two, this piece is a rare one. While muzzleloading rifles were made in Canada during the 19th century, they are not common. Double rifles are rare; if a double was made, it was more likely to be a combination gun.
This rifle has significant value.
As far as Canadian made muzzleloading guns are concerned, most would seem to be rifles, or if a smoothbore barrel was present, combination guns. Canadian made shotguns, either single or double are exceptionally unusual. The gun trades of Birmingham and Belgium just about guaranteed that there was no point in a Canadian gunsmith making shotguns. Almost invariably, if the name of a Canadian gunsmith is on a shotgun, there will be Birmingham proofs on the barrels. I have two gunsmith made doubles; both are 14 pound doubles which I expect were made for market waterfowling. Canadian made muzzleloading pistols are extremely rare. Jones is known to have made Deringer style pistols. I believe Michael Mater of Chippewa made at least one all iron target/hunting pistol. To the best of my knowledge, there is no known specimen of a Canadian made flintlock pistol. Once again, demand was met by production in the UK.
 
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Thanks for posting these . I don't own the gun. I was surprised that the gun still functioned properly.
Welshofer appears to have been in business for only about 5 years, 1860 through 1865.

Glenn
 
There isn't a whole lot of information about him in Gooding's book.
Brantford city directories could be searched. Might be newspaper ads, etc.
Anyway, this is a good one. Your friend is fortunate to have it. Any provenance? Old family gun? Or did it just turn up?
Any cleaning, etc. should be done very carefully. Do no harm.
 
An old friend of my friend wanted to move his grandfathers guns . They went back at least one more generation in the family. It was probably used as late as the 50s.There is a nice flat 200 yards out the back door of the house so the old guy would set up and shoot targets.
When I say the dates for his business(1861-65) I wondered if he was American and came north for the duration of the Civil War.

Glenn
 
Did a quick 'net search. Ancestry.ca reports a George Welshover 1861-1921. Bet this was his son. Might be worth checking ancestry.ca, there will likely be more about the family.

There was quite a bit of movement back and forth across the border. I have a R Holmes Coburg CW rifle. Holmes was an American. Came north, then back to Beaver, Pennsylvania (newspaper ad.) after 1837. I wonder if he didn't get mixed up in the rebellion of that year. Yankees wouldn't have been supportive of the Family Compact running things.
The US Civil War brought prosperity to a lot of CW farmers. That explains a lot of the fine stone farmhouses in Southern Ontario.
 
Here are some photos of the rifle.
It is a double barreled hunting rifle. Rather than having the barrels regulated to use a single set of sights, each barrel has its own set. Easier way of approaching sighting a double.
It looks to be in very fine condition.
As I suggested in post two, this piece is a rare one. While muzzleloading rifles were made in Canada during the 19th century, they are not common. Double rifles are rare; if a double was made, it was more likely to be a combination gun.
This rifle has significant value.
As far as Canadian made muzzleloading guns are concerned, most would seem to be rifles, or if a smoothbore barrel was present, combination guns. Canadian made shotguns, either single or double are exceptionally unusual. The gun trades of Birmingham and Belgium just about guaranteed that there was no point in a Canadian gunsmith making shotguns. Almost invariably, if the name of a Canadian gunsmith is on a shotgun, there will be Birmingham proofs on the barrels. I have two gunsmith made doubles; both are 14 pound doubles which I expect were made for market waterfowling. Canadian made muzzleloading pistols are extremely rare. Jones is known to have made Deringer style pistols. I believe Michael Mater of Chippewa made at least one all iron target/hunting pistol. To the best of my knowledge, there is no known specimen of a Canadian made flintlock pistol. Once again, demand was met by production in the UK.

Thanks for posting the pics.
Can you define "significant value"?

,,,and, does anyone have a source for a copy of Gooding's book?
 
Gooding's book has been out of print for some time. Catch as catch can.

"Significant value". It is difficult to set a hard number. A guide might be the prices realized for the double rifles in the current Switzer auction. If this rifle were offered for less than $1500, I think the sale would be rapid.
 
I did some digging. He was a german immigrant. Married in 1858 in Jamestown NY . First son was born in Brantford in 1861.The family shows up next in Ohio where they have 3 more kids then back to Jamestown area .Most of this info comes from following his wife .She may have remarried in the 1880s.There is nothing found under his name except the year they married and then as father on the records of all the kids. I will look for him in death records next.

Glenn
 
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