Target size @ 50 for .22lr?

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Hello folks,

not sure if this is the right subforum, mods feel free to move if not.

So, I just started using a scope (3-9x32) on my .22lr (Lakefield 91T single shot) and I was wondering what kind of targets I should look to be able to shoot at 50m?

Yesterday was my first try with a scope and by the end of the night I could place 5 shots inside 1". That would be 2 moa thou, so I'm guessing my goal should be .5"? Or even smaller?

What's considered "good" out there?

Steel chicken silhouette @100 was fun and rewarding =D. Not overly difficult too. Too bad you have no clue where the shout went when you miss.

Btw, it was pretty eye-opening noticing the difference between "just firing" and concentrating on breathing/trigger. Groups get basically reduced by half...

Thanks!
 
At 50 yards, off a rest with good ammo, Im putting 10 rounds through a dime...

At 100 yards off a bipod, they are just a bit bigger then a loonie...
 
Was that with a front rest and rear bag, or shooting prone and supporting the rifle with your body alone? How's the follow through? Try your best to see if you can watch the hole get punched in the paper. That helps ensure you don't pull the rifle off target as you fire.
 
I foung my 91T was getting about .5 inches at 50 with CCI minimags off a rest, but that was with open sights, probably capable of better with a scope. Have not ha a calm enough day to try it at 100 yet...
 
domyalex said:
not sure if this is the right subforum, mods feel free to move if not...........

............That would be 2 moa thou,...............
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THat's it.
If you're shooting 2 moa, then you started the thread in the wrong forum
and chances are you will receive an infraction or a warning.
Anything in "Precison Rifles" is about .5 moa and smaller.
 
I think your shooting pretty good as is.. I was using an optic for my shooting as well.

Will only get better with time...
 
I do not have much experience with that rifle,
but it would help if you try more brands of ammo.

You might be able to find some ammo
that shoots tighter in your rifle.
 
My .22 will shoot 0.38" ten-shot groups at 50m (call it 55 yards - so it's probably be fair to estimate that it would produce 0.34" groups at 50 yards). Which is just barely better than 3/4 MOA, which sounds pretty lousy by the accuracy standards of good centrefire rifles.

Test conditions: Anschutz 54 (a decent enough .22 target rifle), removed from stock, action clamped in a modified milling machine vice securely attached to a very solid (concrete?) bench. Fired in an indoor 50m test range (so: zero errors from wind, lighting changes, etc). Ammo selected to be the best grouping from all the ammo available at that time (which turned out to be Eley Tenex; we tested at least half a dozen kinds of topnotch ammo, including Lapua Dominator, RWS R50, etc).

domyalex, there's nothing at all wrong with shooting 2moa groups (in fact, that's the size of the 10-ring for US-NRA smallbore targets). I would suggest that you use NRA-style smallbore targets, which are available scaled for various distances (20 yards, 25 yards, 50- yards, 100 yards etc).

The ISSF 50m smallbore target is very demanding, even for topnotch rifles; while it might be interesting to try out (it's the Olympic target), it's not a target whose ten-ring is realistic to hit the majority of the time with most rifles under most shooting scenarios. It has a 10.4mm ten-ring; add to that 5.6mm (the diameter of a .22 bullet) and you need to group 16mm at 50m in order to score a ten. My rifle/ammo groups 9.6mm (0.38"), so it is using up fully 60% of ten ring all by itself before I even pick up the rifle and start to get involved. Certainly a great majority of the shots fired can be tens, but the rifle/ammo is using up a goodly amount of the "error budget" of this very demanding target (16mm at 50m is 1.1 minutes of angle).

Although I am sure that some people have .22 rifles and ammo and shooting skills that are capable of exceeding what my gear did in a test tunnel under ammo evalutation conditions, my initial reaction is that that wouldn't be terribly common. I don't disbelieve claims of "an inch at a hundred yards", it's certainly possible; but I don't seriously accept them without some followup.
 
A very accurate target 22 rimfire, with top-grade optics of 24X or better, shot in ideal conditions, should shoot at least as well as Daniel has stated at 50 yards. If not, it will not be competitive in a BR match. I have a Suhl 150 with a 36X Leupold and a tuner, and good groups are expected [if I do my part!!] Pic added below. This is a 100 yard target shot at 50 meters with Eley match EPS. The "X" circle is ½" in diameter. All targets are 10 shots. Sighter was used to sight in initially. Regards, Eagleye.
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Eagleye, thanks. I know the BR-50 (but that's 50', isn't it?) guys need to get performance better than that which I get with my match rifle in order to win, and somehow they manage to.

Your groups are in the above photo are five shots per aiming mark, I assume? Even allowing for that, and 50y vs. 50m, those groups are definitely better than the best test groups we were able to get with my rifle when testing ammo. Wow - great performance (!).

That target must be insanely, unreasonably difficult at 100 yards, no?

(I am very easily persuaded by a photo of a group. Especially a photo of several different groups on the same piece of paper)
 
Sounds like a lot of we are going to be seeing a lot of 10/22's sticking out of the ground then !

Disclaimer: Just kidding, the 10/22 is a good fun .22
 
rnbra-shooter said:
Eagleye, thanks. I know the BR-50 (but that's 50', isn't it?) guys need to get performance better than that which I get with my match rifle in order to win, and somehow they manage to.

Your groups are in the above photo are five shots per aiming mark, I assume? Even allowing for that, and 50y vs. 50m, those groups are definitely better than the best test groups we were able to get with my rifle when testing ammo. Wow - great performance (!).

That target must be insanely, unreasonably difficult at 100 yards, no?

(I am very easily persuaded by a photo of a group. Especially a photo of several different groups on the same piece of paper)
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Believe it or not, they are witnessed 10 shot groups. The best I have shot at 100 yards so far with this combination is 300-19X. I believe that "cz452shooter" has shot one target with more X's than that with a 52 (D or E) Winchester. Regards, Eagleye.
 
rnbra-shooter said:
Eagleye, thanks. I know the BR-50 (but that's 50', isn't it?) guys need to get performance better than that which I get with my match rifle in order to win, and somehow they manage to.

Your groups are in the above photo are five shots per aiming mark, I assume? Even allowing for that, and 50y vs. 50m, those groups are definitely better than the best test groups we were able to get with my rifle when testing ammo. Wow - great performance (!).

That target must be insanely, unreasonably difficult at 100 yards, no?

(I am very easily persuaded by a photo of a group. Especially a photo of several different groups on the same piece of paper)
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BR50 is shot at 50 yards, 50 rounds, out of a possible of 5,000,

The shot has to be all the way inside the scoring ring to make the 100 points.
The bull is , IIRC, just over .40
Cat
 
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