Thats what Ive done! Jeez! Did you see all the variance I was getting with all the different ammo I was using. Ill go post up a ton more targets of me shooting some vmax at under 2 moa, but I don't think there is any way I can convince you of otherwise since that might prove a few things to you that maybe you don't want to face or believe.
Tavor accuracy
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Thats what Ive done! Jeez! Did you see all the variance I was getting with all the different ammo I was using. Ill go post up a ton more targets of me shooting some vmax at under 2 moa, but I don't think there is any way I can convince you of otherwise since that might prove a few things to you that maybe you don't want to face or believe.
So far the American eagle 55gr is the only ammo I've fired out of my tavor (ok and a tiny bit of norc). One weekend I might take it easy on the beer and actually go out and try some premium ammo/heavier grains just so I can see what I can do. Hell, might even take some pictures to quiet down the "25 years behind the trigger" god of guns.
After all, out-shooting the old d!cks where ever I go is quickly becoming a favourite pass time of mine.
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I used the same ammunition (AE 62 gr) and same scope (Trijicon RMR) and consistently shot groups 30% smaller with my FS2000 (and with the 16" AR I used to own about 1.5-2MOA with the same ammo). I am not shooting like sh!t and to suggest that everyone who doesn't get magical accuracy from their Tavor is a poor shot or using crap ammo is insulting.
That's the thing though, 2.5" out of a tavor isn't magical lol. And if I insulted you, well that's a shame.
May I suggest you try a different ammo? Just because your ar and fs2000 likes 62gr doesn't mean your tavor will.
Not directed at you at all.
I agree with you, the Tavor from my experience with the 4 I've shot is not a very accurate rifle. I think consistent 2 moa is pretty much as good as it gets with one but most will never see that due to ammo choice and/or shooter skill. The saving grace for the rifle comes when people accept that it is not an overly accurate rifle but it does have some other good qualities. If those qualities are what you are looking for then the Tavor is a great rifle. If you want a tack driving precision rifle then the Tavor is the wrong rifle for you.
I have no desire to own one and getting to shoot one once or twice a year when a buddy brings one out is plenty for me.
I have no doubt you can shoot, I know someone who knows you who said your a much easier guy to get along with in person and that you know your sh!t.
My comments were not directed at anyone specifically, I posted that after reading all the previous posts and rolling everything into a nameless ball and trying to address a lot of the comments.
Don't get me wrong -I'm not saying you didn't get the results you posted. I'm saying I question the rifles ability to repeat the results consistently. Maybe try the 5 round groups x5 on a single target as some have done in the precision forum or some other 5 round groups of the same ammo, same aiming point and overlay the groups over each other. It is likely to show the Tavor's tendency to spread 'em around.
I get a pretty solid 2.5-3moa with my Tavors from the bench... I did at one point have 3 and they were all pretty consistent...
The Tavor wasn't designed as a tack driver (probably been said a thousand times here in as many threads), but is a great rifle for it's intended use. Worth the money IMO...
The Tavor wasn't designed as a tack driver (probably been said a thousand times here in as many threads), but is a great rifle for it's intended use. Worth the money IMO...
andrew3081
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If you can not afford a tavor, you can always buy T97.
Then your paying a $ 1000 for a $300 rifle
Exactly, I would be willing to pay maybe $600 for a T97 if they came with the FTU. To me it's a disposable rifle because it has no warranty and no parts support.
As much as I don't think the Tavor is worth $2700 I do think it is a better deal for the money than a $900 T97 that you need to add another $400 to before you can actually mount an optic that doesn't require a chin weld to look through.
T 97 is a $500 rifle for $1000 because its non restricted. I think i rather buy a mini 30 for $900 or a norc m14 for $550 . My ar is $3700 so price is not an issue, but my ar is absolutely awesome. Same would go for an xcr or even an acr for that matter. You can do way better at the 3 k range.
Loved everything about the tavor except the accuracy.
Hand loading for mine along with some other modifications for accuracy resulted in an absolute best of 2 moa. It was a 3 moa rifle for the most part. I spent quite a bit of time working up loads for it.
For reference to shooting skill etc, I have no problem getting .75" groups at 110 yards with my bartlein barrelled acr, noveske ar, or 308 ar's.
Hand loading for mine along with some other modifications for accuracy resulted in an absolute best of 2 moa. It was a 3 moa rifle for the most part. I spent quite a bit of time working up loads for it.
For reference to shooting skill etc, I have no problem getting .75" groups at 110 yards with my bartlein barrelled acr, noveske ar, or 308 ar's.
andrew3081
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On your OP, you said you dislike the tavor for the price. So if price is not the issue, then why do you dislike the tavor? Because you think the tavor is not worth $2500? Or you hate bullpup?
And what can you do better in the $3000 range? A $3000 Ar15 that you can only use on a range?
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Well I pulled out the wallet and am getting myself a Tavor. These are going for $2550 now...priced close to my XCR keymod. For those of you that think an XCR is a tackdriver...think again lol (3-3.5 moa). Non restricted status trumps the high end AR for me...and I could buy one if I wanted, KAC or Noveske. If I just wanted to punch holes in paper Id use my dollar store hole punch....no offence AR guys
If I need shoot bug holes I have a number of rifles capable of doing that,,,this is gonna be my truck gun for coyotes, I plan on doing a boar hunt with it and just have fun. I plan on packing in for fishing trips up in the bush as well having it ready for the zombie apocalypse.
For those who think the Tavors not worth it I suggest you take a look at all the shops that are sold out....must be worth it for some.
Cheers!!
If I need shoot bug holes I have a number of rifles capable of doing that,,,this is gonna be my truck gun for coyotes, I plan on doing a boar hunt with it and just have fun. I plan on packing in for fishing trips up in the bush as well having it ready for the zombie apocalypse.
For those who think the Tavors not worth it I suggest you take a look at all the shops that are sold out....must be worth it for some.
Cheers!!
onetwentyish
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Awesome! Any idea what optic and various other mods are planned for your Tavor yet?
I have a bushnell AR series with Throw lever,,,nothing to fancy but it should do for now. I really like how the rifle fits and looks stock so I might just keep it that way. Will have to see.
Cheers!!
Well I admit I have not read all the posts here, but here is my two cents...
I can't say what off-the-shelf ammo will do because I make all my own rifle ammo, but with 5 round handload groups my Tavor holds 2 MOA out to at least 500 yards (1.3" at 100 yards). Forgive my ignorance but I have been very inactive on CGN the last few years so I am not up on the generations, but it came on the second shipment to Canada. I tested this out once in response to a fellow CGN members statement that they doubt it would be so capable...
Some other good Tavor accuracy info on this thread (+ the 2MOA @ 500 yard proof):
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...84-IWI-Tavor-or-KAC-SR-15?highlight=tavor+500
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I can't say what off-the-shelf ammo will do because I make all my own rifle ammo, but with 5 round handload groups my Tavor holds 2 MOA out to at least 500 yards (1.3" at 100 yards). Forgive my ignorance but I have been very inactive on CGN the last few years so I am not up on the generations, but it came on the second shipment to Canada. I tested this out once in response to a fellow CGN members statement that they doubt it would be so capable...
Some other good Tavor accuracy info on this thread (+ the 2MOA @ 500 yard proof):
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...84-IWI-Tavor-or-KAC-SR-15?highlight=tavor+500
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onetwentyish
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Nice shooting Lloyd.
Beltfed still trashes the Tavor over accuracy at every chance he gets. I always wonder how he makes such wild claims when there is proof between yours and Mikethebikes Tavor accuracy testing. Some people just like to bash stuff they cant afford or dont like the physical look of. Then they continue to try and force thier ideas on others....
Sounds reasonable.... /sarcasm.
Beltfed still trashes the Tavor over accuracy at every chance he gets. I always wonder how he makes such wild claims when there is proof between yours and Mikethebikes Tavor accuracy testing. Some people just like to bash stuff they cant afford or dont like the physical look of. Then they continue to try and force thier ideas on others....
Sounds reasonable.... /sarcasm.
