Tavor forward assist?

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Just wondering if the charging handle on the Tavor can be engaged to act as a forward assist in the event of the bolt failing to close? Thanks for the info. Chris
 
I will have to check, but I believe when you let the bolt handle go from all the way back, it either closes completely, or you can tell it doesn't by the receiver opening.
In other words, you can see the bolt when fully closed. When it's not, you will see a gap. I think the handle is always connected to the bolt, but if you need to close that gap, you must open the bolt up again to clear the problem.

Hope that helps.
 
Negative, the charging handle assembly is just a rod pushing on the face of the bolt carrier.
 
Isn't the lack of a forward assit kind of a disign flaw? All of the rifles I can think of has some form of forward assist.....G36, C7, AKM, XCR, ACR, Swiss arms....... Anyone have any clue as to the reasoning behind this? Chris
 
As for the AK's and Swiss arms the forward assist would be your hand, there is no dedicated mechanism.

There aren't many rifles with this: Later AR-15 design, Israeli FAL, SA80 and a few civilian ones like the MSAR STG556 or the Robinson XCR you told earlier. I can't think of many more...

Is it a design flaw to not have one? Ask yourself why this would be needed.

It might be useful in an emergency event, but I'd look elsewhere for solutions if my rifle isn't chambering.
 
Possibly, but you probably just lost a round in the cycle, and time to live.

Most semis that I know of have a forward assist of some kind, although I don't know of many that have the cool dedicated ratchet system the AR has. If you hit the charging handle forward on the tavor it does not force the bolt closed?
 
Both G36 and AUG have forward assists - it is the charging handle.

For FNC, SG55X and AK family in general, you just push the charging handle forward.
 
"If you hit the charging handle forward on the tavor it does not force the bolt closed?"

Not to be a smart ass, but read the entire thread.

from toya:

"Negative, the charging handle assembly is just a rod pushing on the face of the bolt carrier."

Push, no pull. Yes i do own one - Toya is right
 
FA is a waste of time and its use is generally misunderstood. It was added to the M16 family because of the DI action causes carbon build up. In combat the loss of one round is a non issue you just tap, rack and go.

Bolt partially forward is generally cause by either a misshapen round, chamber obstruction, or a bad mag. If its the first two do you really want to be ramming the round home? If its a mag issue then the solution is a new mag.
 
carbonrod said:
I was just double checking because it seams like a bit of a design flaw to me. Especially in the sand. Or with 5 rnd mags.
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The tavor was designed with the IDF experience on the field and urban fighting. I think there is sand somewhere around there. Even then they chose not to put one. Remember that they get M16's nearly for free from the USA.
 
I remember the Americans being all hot for forward assists, and that was one of their criticisms of the FN. The Brits made a cocking handle that could be used as a forward assist, and put it on some of the EX models for tests in the US. It was also fitted to the Israeli FNs.

FN didn't bother with it, and neither did the Brits or us for that matter. Tests showed that if you had a dirty chamber or short stoked on the gas, simply rack and keep going. The return spring exerts far more force than you can bashing on a forward assist, and as already mentioned, if you have a mishaped round or other issue, forcing the bolt closed will just make things worse.
 
suprathepeg said:
FA is a waste of time and its use is generally misunderstood. It was added to the M16 family because of the DI action causes carbon build up. In combat the loss of one round is a non issue you just tap, rack and go.

Bolt partially forward is generally cause by either a misshapen round, chamber obstruction, or a bad mag. If its the first two do you really want to be ramming the round home? If its a mag issue then the solution is a new mag.
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I was always uncomfortable with the notion of ramming a round home, as you say. I'm kind of afraid this will happen:

ht tp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh1lyMyejpI
 
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