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Man, if I paid $2000 for a rifle and it started changing itself: you're damn right I'd be going to the manufacturer asking if it was a problem.

Frankly, I'm surprised TK-Hryciuk let it go with their explanation. Its something that we'd never seen on the rifle before and seemed to be worsening with every box of ammunition.

Think about the SAN brass mark on the ejector port: if some rifles did it and some didn't, don't you think someone might ask why?
 
Armedsask said:
I'm surprised IWI even replied with an explanation. I would have replied with, "Are you ####ing kidding me?"

I swear some of you people go full retard on the tiniest little marks on rifles.
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Bingo! These and other rifles are mass produced tools. Not fine sports cars.
 
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A good chunk? By my measurements it's no more than 1/8" wide and maybe .07" deep. I bet you also tell the ladies you have a 12" ####.

It is a tiny cosmetic issue in a non-critical portion of the rifle, and you cared about it. You're being ridiculousness.
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That picture was taken when I first noticed it and kept progressing until about 4 days ago. On the Tavor, the charging handle being locked is what keeps the bolt in battery, if the handle unlocks it moves the bolt rearward with it. My concern was whether or not this was going to cause an issue locking up. I don't understand how people like you get so aggressive over someone elses concerns and questions. TV-PressPass was atleast kind enough to talk to me and give me the idea to contact IWI, and for that I thank him.
 
No worries my rifle has the same appearance on the charging knob. I never noticed until this thread, over 2k rounds through it looks the same as TK-Hrycuik...it will not get any worse. A buddy of mine accidentally put a tiny scratch on a hand gun of mine...he's dead to me now.

Hey how bout a pic of the Tavor!!!

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TK-Hryciuk said:
That picture was taken when I first noticed it and kept progressing until about 4 days ago. On the Tavor, the charging handle being locked is what keeps the bolt in battery, if the handle unlocks it moves the bolt rearward with it.
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That is just patently false. The return spring is what holds the bolt locked up. :rolleyes:
I don't understand how people like you get so aggressive over someone elses concerns and questions.
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Guns are tools. Small nicks and dings on non-critical areas are nothing to worry about. This isn't a beauty contest. Did you know the cocking handing has a steel rid inside it? The plastic piece is just a cover to make it feel nicer. Some tiny chipping on the front does sweet F all. I just looked at mine and it is a little beat up too.

Probably the real reason I get so upset is I'm projecting past head aches onto you. I've had to put up with some pretty ridiculous, BS complaints when I build stuff for people. You always get that one prick that makes a big deal about one tiny little cosmetic imperfection. A little ding on the edge of a plastic knob, for example.

Also, I haven't slept much in the past 36 hours so I'm a little cranky. I apologize.
 
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Armedsask said

"I'm surprised IWI even replied with an explanation. I would have replied with, "Are you ####ing kidding me?"

I swear some of you people go full retard on the tiniest little marks on rifles. "


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um, your opinion.

my opinion- i would ask about it if it were bothering me.
3K is a lot of money. i like nice things and i take care of them...what's wrong with wanting it as close to perfect as possible?

i don't think he went "full retard".
get to sleep, you need it.


and just to end on a happy note,
i do love this rifle!
 
I noticed my cocking handle was doing that too. If you use the release button to chamber a round instead of the cocking handle then it wont slam forward like that and chip out the plastic (im assuming thats what this is about? i didnt want to read all the way through). I still like using the handle over the button though, sounds nice lol.
 
Armedsask said:
Word from IWI on the tiny marks on TK-Hryciuk's charging handle:[/SIZE]

"The way the locking springs are produced, they are bent differently every time, and TK-Hryciuk's was bent a little backwards which was causing it to catch. They said it's a non-issue and once the spring clears enough material it won't deform any more. They said the spring should be bent forward so when it engages the ramp it doesn't come into contact at all, but because they're mass produced, it's hard to make every one perfect."
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I'm surprised IWI even replied with an explanation. I would have replied with, "Are you ####ing kidding me?"

I swear some of you people go full retard on the tiniest little marks on rifles.
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lol good of them to take the time to respond with that, now i know if i actually have a issue i can expect them to look into it.
 
Armedsask said:
Did it lock up? Did you modify your gun to fit it? I tried my buddy's Beta mag and you can't seat it. The drums rub on the mag well flare rib things.
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LOL good description. I know exactly what you're talking about! If you look close there's no screw on the mag because I disassembled it, put the tower on then put the drum on by rocking the drum into the tower and pressuring past the well flare rib things ( rock like an ak mag).

It appears I would only have to remove a little material (some of the rib thingy perimiter) from the Tavor for the beta mag to slide right in...

It lockes in and mag release works fine. I just don't want to trim my Tavor!
 
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I believe the model sold in Canada is the Tavor Carbine TC-21. It is semi-auto and a slightly longer barrel. On all the online shops i see it says .223. I would not feel comfortable firing 5.56 through it. Perhaps there is an after market barrel swap or something?

Has anyone measured MOA on it? I would guess 2-3 range??

ps. why do they sell out faster than I can get to the store to check them out.
 
It's 5.56.... Trust me. Why in the world would they tool diferent chambers that are interchangeable?

With regards to moa... It's not a target rifle that's for d@mn sure
 
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