TC Pro Hunter comments

[Azazle]

I recently traded up my Knight Magnum Disc to a TC Encore Pro Hunter. I have been nothing but impressed with the way it shoots. After sighting it in I've shot it 3 times and downed a whitetail and an antelope. I couldn't believe how well it grouped on paper for a muzzle loader. I also really enjoy the way it tears down for cleaning.

I personally won't swap barrels anytime soon as I have bolt actions in varmint/hunting applications already in place. My dad however has a few barrels that we are going to break in on his once it warms up. He enjoys the ergonomics of the gun better than anything else he's ever handled. He told me it fits him like his Perazzi MX2000RS trap gun which honestly says a lot..

 

[pbonura]

Some reviews on the CVA from another page.

Try something else
Date: January 17, 2011 I purchased the Apex in 30-06 last year. The gun was returned to CVA twice because of poor accuracy and the spent casing hanging up. The gun still has poor accuracy and the spent casing still hangs up. Very poor customer service. The second time the gun was to be returned, the manager of their customer service called me and said he would personally see that the gun was taken care of as soon as it arrived. 12 weeks later I had to call them and see what the status was. They advertise accuracy guaranteed, but will not specify what level of accuracy they guarantee

Should have bought a TC
Date: October 13, 2010 I first purchased the Apex as a .50 cal muzzleloader, it is a very nice looking gun, easy to clean, and handles nicely. I have had some troubles with accuracy from the muzzleloader. I really started to have problems when i purchased a 7mm-08 barrel for the gun. The first time i tried to slide a cartridge into the the barrel, the bullet extractor would not allow me to get it in there. I called CVA and was asked to send the barrel in so I did. It took 8 weeks to get the barrel back and it still did not work, i was able to get a cartridge in but once it was fired, the expanded cartridge would not pull out. I called CVA back and was handed off to a manager who would "call me right back", never got a call. Called again a few days later, was told i would be sent a shipping label and never recieved it, so i called a third time and was finally assisted in shipping the gun back to CVA. Another 6 weeks later, I finally recieved the gun back in a working condition. The work done of the barrel is evident since the bullet extractor was "resized" (filed-down) and i now have a re-worked barrel that i paid full price for. I have had accuracy issues with this barrel as well. I will never buy another CVA

cheap rifle
Date: September 8, 2010 first time i shot this gun out of the box it locked up. it would not breech. this is a cheap gun and i wish had not bought it. complete waste of money. i would not buy this gun, spend the extra money and buy a tc. customer service has been a joke and not much help. still waiting on the paper work from cva so i can ship the gun back in but that was a couple weeks ago. back up your work cva.

These are three people from cabelas.com. Funny you forgot to pull the positive feedback that was on the same website.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/CVA-...Ntt=cva+apex&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products

I have this gun and I have never had any problems. This gun has won two awards already and is new. Feedback is very very subjective. Pretty sure if I went to websites I could pull negative feedback on the tc. Cabelas.com also has positive feedback on the same gun. You need to understand there are other guns out there that provide competition.

 

[780caribou]

Love the T/C. Have it with a .204 barrel and a 300 Win mag. Single shot makes you shoot properly because there is no followup shot. Accurate and fun to shoot.

 

[duke1]

Just had a look at the CVA web site and I see a lot of comparisons of their single shots to the ones from T/C. In particular, they compare the Apex to the T/C Encore and not to the Pro Hunter. Usually, what I have seen here on Gunnutz is price comparison comparing a Pro Hunter to the Apex and this is like comparing apples to oranges.

http://www.cva.com/rifles-apex.php#tab-comparison

For what it's worth, their comparison does not impress me and would not get me to buy one of their guns based on it.

I know very little about the Apex but I'm very familiar with the T/C Encore Pro-Hunter and for someone who has hunted for over 60 years, this is my kind of gun - even had very complimentary comments from Wild Life LEOs. And this is from someone who owns a small arsenal of hunting guns including some of the more expensive around.

Duke1

 

[stuckon308]

Ok. So I found a negative of the Pro Hunter. I put my 375 H&H on and went out to have some fun punching holes in 8" thick trunk slabs. I made the mistake of putting my bipod on. The first shot cracked the swivel stud in half. Turns out they are made of plastic. I could have sworn they were metal on my old Encore.

It's not that big of a deal. I'll just replace it with a metal one. But I was mildly annoyed.

She still punched ragged holes at 75m. Definitely a keeper. And for all of those people that always ask, the recoil is definitely not bad with the included Limbsaver.

 

[pbonura]

I understand there is huge following on the Encore/Pro Hunter. Just highlighting the T/C is not the only interchangeble barrel gun out there. CVA Apex has won two awards and is a pretty nice gun. I have one and if anyone wants to shoot it and compare let me know. Another point is all the barrels are made by Bergarra Barrels. This company also makes barrels for the T/C pro hunter. Heck the Pro Hunter is nice no doubt just saying the gun is slightly overpriced for the features provided. Heck the CVA Apex has an adjustable trigger.

 

[pbonura]

Just had a look at the CVA web site and I see a lot of comparisons of their single shots to the ones from T/C. In particular, they compare the Apex to the T/C Encore and not to the Pro Hunter. Usually, what I have seen here on Gunnutz is price comparison comparing a Pro Hunter to the Apex and this is like comparing apples to oranges.

http://www.cva.com/rifles-apex.php#tab-comparison

For what it's worth, their comparison does not impress me and would not get me to buy one of their guns based on it.

I know very little about the Apex but I'm very familiar with the T/C Encore Pro-Hunter and for someone who has hunted for over 60 years, this is my kind of gun - even had very complimentary comments from Wild Life LEOs. And this is from someone who owns a small arsenal of hunting guns including some of the more expensive around.

Duke1

Mike Bellm who knows quite abit about the T/C Pro Hunter recommends the Apex.

http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=554

 

[duke1]

Mike Bellm who knows quite abit about the T/C Pro Hunter recommends the Apex.

http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=554

Very positive and convincing review but will their stock design reduce the felt recoil of a 375H&H magnum round by at least 43% and what about the 28" barrel on the Pro-Hunter?

Nevertheless, the more competition the better for all of us and if the Apex turns out to be a strong competitor, the prices on the T/C line might come down.

Duke1

PS. BTW, I can shoot my T/C 375 H&H for up to 40 rounds without my shoulder being blue and this is something that I can't do with a couple of Sakos that I've owned over the years. Sold one because of the recoil and kept one for a possible gift down the road for one of my grand sons.

Duke1

 

[pbonura]

Competition is very good for everyone. I really like the TC pro hunter and would of bought one if the price was right. However I purchased the apex for under 600. If the apex gets a big following it will force tc to be more competitively priced. Right now the top calibre is 300 win mag in the apex. I am looking to get another barrel maybe a 243 or 223.

 

[Kamloops hunter]

I am curious about the recoil on one. I was considering getting one in 7mm - 08 gor my wife and two kids. My son is turning 10 next year and will be able to hunt deer in bc. The reasons I would consider thus gun is:

It's ease of use
I have 2 left Hand and 2 right hand shooters in the family
Apparent less recoil

Does anyone have any experience on the recoil one of these in 7mm-08.

Cheers kh

 

[dgl1948]

These are three people from cabelas.com. Funny you forgot to pull the positive feedback that was on the same website

Just wanted to point out when 3 out of 5 people have had problems one should be aware of this.

 

[canadian hunter312]

Its real simple, if you think that its marketing then you don't have a need for one.

I think you could apply this line of thinking to the pumps, levers, bolts and semi's there as well. Just think, no need to have custom built firearms. Oh, I did not know you were a financial advisor as well.

if you turds would have read my posts in this thread rather than getting all defensive and giving attitude you would have noticed that i was asking questions as to why someone would choose an encore. i think it's a waste of money, but you don't. that's totally fine with me. maybe some info rather than attitude would be helpful?

so, how about you both untwist your panties, post some pro's and con's, and give your opinions why it's worth what people pay for them.

 

[pbonura]

I have a 30 06 so can not really provide a good comparsion. Just wondering where you are going to buy these gun from. Sales have been very good that is really tough to find the barrels. 243 would work for deer. Really nice recoi pad and design to suck up the recoil.

 

[Johnnyoneshot]

This is a busy thread and thought I'd may as well throw in my 2 cents. Last year I purchased a TC pro Hunter in 300WM.......(Don't really know why) as I have a beautiful Ruger #1 in 338 WM. I sort of have a love affair with single shot rifles as you can seeAnyways I must be one of the luckier ones as as some have read you either have one or have to make your TC accurate. Mine shoots MOA out of the box all day long and continues to do so today. I soon realized that the reason I bought the Pro Hunter was the interest in reduced recoil and the Flextec stock does work. Although I will never loose my love affair with my Ruger the TC is much easier on these old bones and has proven a reliable killer on moose with 200 gr Sierras. For me the Pro Hunter is awsum and plan to try a 7-08 barrel for deer in near future. As for price I buy what works for me and if it don't, it becomes a candidate in exchange forums Just my 2 cents.

John

 

[pbonura]

Just wanted to point out when 3 out of 5 people have had problems one should be aware of this.

I feel like I am highschool all over again. I attached a link from cabelas.com where these three reviews can from and there are six positive reviews. Dude grow up.

 

[RyanBambach]

Ok. So I found a negative of the Pro Hunter. I put my 375 H&H on and went out to have some fun punching holes in 8" thick trunk slabs. I made the mistake of putting my bipod on. The first shot cracked the swivel stud in half. Turns out they are made of plastic. I could have sworn they were metal on my old Encore.QUOTE]

I bought an Endevor Pro-Hunter XT this past fall and it has the steel stud. Anyway, the Pro-hunters suck for mounting a bi-pod due to the where the stud is mounted at the front of the stock. I added another stud to both my muzzle loader and riffle fore-stocks and they work great. I epoxied in the nuts so they won't work loose. Here is a quick picture of the final product!

RyanB

 

[jkc]

I see there is a lot of opposition to the encore/prohunter. I would agree that the price is up there. But this was the only gun for me. Oh yeah, I search for a deal also and scooped mine up cheap!!!(brand new)

The stock looks stupid, I agree. BUT, the first time I shouldered one it fit perfect. My brother in law said not to buy one because of the way it looked....until he shouldered one. Then he had to have one too.

I am a lefty and search for something 'different.' I didn't want a run of the mill Rem 700, or savage. That was when I stumbled on the Thompson. I needed a muzzle loader anyways so that was were I started.

The idea of the interchangeable barrels really took me. By shooting with the same frame all the time, you can really get in tune with your trigger. You may have heard of practice makes perfect. You get to use the same trigger pull all the time, not jumping for model to model and pull to pull.

That was when I chose to buy a center fire barrel. The choices were endless, and again I wanted to travel a road less traveled. I didn't want to settle for a ho-hum 30-06, 308 or 270. I had my heart set on 260 rem, which I could get for a pro hunter. But then I learned of a sale and picked up a 25/06 pro hunter barrel (you know the $499 one) for $257.00 brand new.

So this put me in for $660 for the muzzle loader and $257 for the 25/06. I had two guns for $917.00. The muzzle loader is MOA accurate, as is the 25/06. Now comes the hand loads which make it better.

Just my two cents.(maybe this is more like four cents) Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

[dgl1948]

feel like I am highschool all over again. I attached a link from cabelas.com where these three reviews can from and there are six positive reviews. Dude grow up. 02-13-2011 01:22 PM

The link you posted with the 6 reviews was was for the black powder rifle. My posts were for the center fire rifle. If you check the comments on it 3 of the five are negative. Two of the three are haveing the same problem. One of them is saying he still had the same problem after it was supposed to have been fixed by CVA. I am not sure why you are getting so upset. Before a fellow spends hard earned cash on a firearmn he should know if there are any issues with the firearm. Reviews are one of the things to consider. I am not saying do not buy one, just take a look at the total picture.

 

[Traps]

if you turds would have read my posts in this thread rather than getting all defensive and giving attitude you would have noticed that i was asking questions as to why someone would choose an encore. i think it's a waste of money, but you don't. that's totally fine with me. maybe some info rather than attitude would be helpful?

so, how about you both untwist your panties, post some pro's and con's, and give your opinions why it's worth what people pay for them.

LOL, if you must make me regurgitate my posts to hammer home the obvious so be it.

Post#2:
Love the plastic, I can beat and scratch it without having to concern myself with wood. It points really well and is well balanced. What I really liked right from picking it up the first time is the ergonomics, it just felt good.

#17
A single shot makes you make the first shot count instead of relying on a false sense of security that your magazine is full. Its made me a better shot and more patient for the shot so that I make it count.

The benefit of multiple barrels is just that. Offseason on goes the 223, hunting season on goes the 338.

 

[Traps]

Heck the CVA Apex has an adjustable trigger.

Mine also has an adjustable trigger, 1/2 hr of time, a $2 spring and its set at 2 1/2 lbs. Once you adjust it there is never a need to change it and anyone can do it.