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Im going to purchase a PCP gun.
I've been an airgunner all my life but I've never used a PCP and I know nothing about it. I plan on using it indoors over the winter and in the field in better weather. It will be a <500fps gun.
Teach me what I need to know about it.
 
what videos have you watched and what are some of your questions

too opened for me to answer

maybe I should,ask

SCHOOL ME ON WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW
 
I know little, but understand you will need a pump, and knowledge about Chinese guns and all their many seals.I ordered my first PCP a few days ago, and it is a PP700sa with two barrels in .22 caliber, and I have a Amazon bought pump, that cost me 70 dollars.Pistol can be tuned to higher velocity, and comes with a stock, 16 inch barrel, as well as an 8 inch barrel.I will bump it up to 650 fps when I have the long barrel on it.450fps with the short pistol barrel.I bought it from Wes at Airgunarcheryfun.com.
 
A few things to consider:
- You will require an air supply. It will either be a hand pump (bit of a pain depending how much you shoot) or a tank. If you purchase a tank and want a dive shop to fill it the tank must be DOT certified for them to legally fill it. Check your tank size and pressure rating vs your rifle fill specs. A lot of the guns will fill to 200 or 250 bar. To get more than a couple fills your tank will likely need to be capable of 4500 psi. Check if your local dive shop is capable of filling to that level. Tanks need to be inspected or recertification on a set schedule. If you buy a used tank make sure there is life left in it.
- sometimes you can get a lot more bang-for-your-buck by buying good used. The classifieds here and here ( https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/for-sale-f4.html?sid=d0240bf28bcd949630cb8f426012ee9f ) are good places to watch.
- pcp guns tend to be gentle on scopes so it gives you a lot more options
 
Artemis PR900W/Diana Stormrider is a good gun to start with, the air cylinder is small enough to fill with a hand pump but can still do 50 shot or so on a fill.
 
Hope I don't get in trouble but, the Canadian Airgun Forum have a bunch of great firearm owners that really helped me.

To get started in the PCP game it is expensive, a decent PCP is around $1000.00, scuba tank and fill nipple/hose is another 400.00 or so, then glass of course. Good thing is pellets are pretty cheap. If paper punching .177 is great.

Or look at a CO2 QB series rifle, as indoor shooting doesn't effect CO2 velocity and you don't need tanks/air.
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Smokepole said:
Im going to purchase a PCP gun.
I've been an airgunner all my life but I've never used a PCP and I know nothing about it. I plan on using it indoors over the winter and in the field in better weather. It will be a <500fps gun.
Teach me what I need to know about it.
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If you want something under 500fps just buy a decent springer.
 
Not new to airguns. Im moving towards a ppc with a hand pump, for now. I like the idea of some physical effort to get the joy of shooting.
I've been looking at Diana and Artemis guns. So guess I'm testing the waters.
How important is a filter of some sort for the pump?
 
If only someone would invent google or youtube or some kind of thing where there's seemingly limitless information available covering nearly every possible question people could have. Boy that would be something
 
KDX said:
I wouldn't recommend the Impact to anyone new to the PCP world. The Crown would be a good choice though.
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Well, it could be a good "learning" gun
- How to change o-rings
- Do you really need so many adjustment/ what was the last setting combination that worked
- Eh! The just release the Mk-xx ... upgrade kit soon to be available

For the price of a entry level PCP kit, you could get a top-tier springer
- TX 200
- HW 95
And you would still have some physical effort to get the joy of shooting
 
I have a few PCP guns:
Feinwerkbau 500
CZ 200T
Hammerli AP20 pistol.

Depends if you are looming to play or possibly compete later. Air pumps are quite a bit of work, but if you get the right one you just need one and adapters lime I have. Usually I shoot and then pump after to it over exert myself and throw shots. Also, the pumps should be used once and left to cool down or you will ruin the seals.

A filter is nice, but I was told not required if you bleed a bit off at the end to get any moisture out. The airgun club in NB a few miles from the deer blind I am sitting in right now had used to have a fancy electric pump. My father would cheat and fill his tank there before going home for the week :).
 
Smokepole said:
Im going to purchase a PCP gun.
I've been an airgunner all my life but I've never used a PCP and I know nothing about it. I plan on using it indoors over the winter and in the field in better weather. It will be a <500fps gun.
Teach me what I need to know about it.
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Budget would be nice to know, as well as realistic accuracy expectations..

I did the dance with FX Dreamline and the honeymoon ended very quickly. The big problem you will never see in a youtube video is that while it can shoot some... some... good groups, the POI is not reliable over time. The barrel is a BS assembly of a skinny little brake line tube inside a larger thin wall tube. That results in all sorts of POI changes.

Next problem... the mags... the FX mags and many like it will allow you to cycle the bolt and unwitingly load more than one pellet into the barrel. That's a huge deal breaker. Yes it happens all the time.

Solution to both of the points I made above... HW100

It has a real one piece solid steel barrel.... increadibly accurate.

It has a special mag design that prevents double feeding... The mag does not rotate until you fire the trigger.

I would recommend that you get the HW 100 above all others and if you don't have the cash for one today, I suggest that you wait until you do.

You also mentioned about shooting indoors... My recommendation is Vortex Diamondback Tactical... not that I'm a big fan of it, but its the only decent scope that has parallax down to 7.5 yards.... I also have a Element scope that I quite like better, but the minimum parallax is 10 meters and that's a deal breaker for me.

Accuracy of my HW100 is essentially one hole that a pellet will not fall through at 10 yards. (with good pellets)
 
Lookingforantiques said:
If only someone would invent google or youtube or some kind of thing where there's seemingly limitless information available covering nearly every possible question people could have. Boy that would be something
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The information age is already here, but most of the information is either useless or bull####.Discernment is the name of the game in the modern age.
 
Smokepole said:
Im going to purchase a PCP gun.
I've been an airgunner all my life but I've never used a PCP and I know nothing about it. I plan on using it indoors over the winter and in the field in better weather. It will be a <500fps gun.
Teach me what I need to know about it.
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I have been an air-gunner all my life too, and either we pump them up with a pump or a lever, as they all are airguns.My PP 700sa arrived today, and it is a really nice gun to shoot.Easy to fill with a cheap pump, and well made.Easy to pump to pressure and really accurate, so one of these guns is a no brainer, at under 300 dollars.
 
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