Tell me about black powder pistols?
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I wouldn't call them sacrilage but if you're going to get into something like this then why not do it all the way?
There ARE some conversion cylinders. They are a bit of a two part kludge that has a separate cylinder and rear "plate" that holds 6 mini firing pins to move the force down to the primers on the cartridges. On the 1851 and 1860 using these requires that you break down the gun to swap out the cylinder. You do this by clicking the locking wedge to one side and the barrel slips off the big center arbor. On the Remmie '58 you just roll the cylinder adapter in using Clint's method shown in the movie Pale Rider.
There's also replicas of some of the rare interim guns that were conversions of the old open top or early percussion revolvers. They look rather "tinker toy" like to my eyes but they are popular with some collectors. Look up the Uberti home site for nice pictures of these and the true percussion replicas.
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/dragoon_and_pocket_revolvers.php
Skin,mac, and those jumping all over him that made him pop a vien, the powders you're talking about are black powder substitutes like Pyrodex and 777. They even CALL them "black powder substitues" on the can or bottle instead of "smokeless powder" just to avoid the confusion with the run of the mill modern smokeless powders. They STILL smoke a lot but just not as much as true black. And yes, black is still out there even here in Canada. It's just not as easy to get as before.
And you don't need to buy a Ruger New Army. The current production replicas of the last two decades from Uberti and Pietta have a pretty good rep in the black powder community. meanwhile the Ruger is basically a non-historical new design that looks as much like a Colt 1873 as it can manage. For myself I LIKE the long skinny look of the replicas. YMMV of course. We all have our own tastes.
What's the difference between the Army and Navy grips? ie, which one is smaller, which is bigger?
I don't know the difference between the two,but if you go to the uberti homepage and look up the 1871-72 open top,they list some pistols with an army size grip and then others with a navy size.I'm sure somewhere they define the difference.I t's a nice looking pistol though,you might be costing me some money.
I think I'll go watch THE GOOD,THE BAD AND THE UGLY now.
I think I'll go watch THE GOOD,THE BAD AND THE UGLY now.
If there is a difference it's very small and of no issue. They both are a three finger and trigger finger grip with the pinky floating just under the base unless you've got really small hands. Then it becomes a full hand grip.
As I understand it the only difference is that the navy for some reason liked the .36 size caliber while the army wanted the .44. Otherwise the guns are the same. There were also some different barrel lengths so perhaps that also enters into the issue.
I don't know the difference between the two,but if you go to the uberti homepage and look up the 1871-72 open top,they list some pistols with an army size grip and then others with a navy size.I'm sure somewhere they define the difference.I t's a nice looking pistol though,you might be costing me some money.
I think I'll go watch THE GOOD,THE BAD AND THE UGLY now.
Sorry, It's on the Shooters Choice Uberti page.the uberti home page says nothing about grip sizes.
I beleive its just the 1871 open top model that offers this ,according to their site anyways.
http://w ww.shooterschoice.com/uberti/Uberti.htm
I've shot black powder pistols before & have no real current interest in shooting them now.
HOWEVER, I do love the looks of the 1851 Navy and 1860 Army repros. I've long considered buying one just for that reason only.
That might sound peculiar but you can't beat the looks of those old designs.
NAA.
HOWEVER, I do love the looks of the 1851 Navy and 1860 Army repros. I've long considered buying one just for that reason only.
That might sound peculiar but you can't beat the looks of those old designs.
NAA.
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best of both worlds for sure!
I have an antique Remington New Model Army(1858)converted to shoot 44Russian/44Spl.
it has a loading gate groove milled into the frame and an ejector rod so no need to remove the cylinder for loading and unloading.
I shoot smokeless in it all the time and it will handle factory Remington Express 44 spl rounds.
The pictures don't do it justice,but check it out here:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=403843
solid as a rock and a pile of fun to shoot without all the legal issues associated with "normal" handguns
solid as a rock and a pile of fun to shoot without all the legal issues associated with "normal" handguns
When I visited Australia two or three decades ago, cap-and-ball revolvers were completely unregulated but, so far as I know, that loophole was plugged. In Canada -- again so far as I know -- black powder revolvers and flintlock pistols are subject to the exact same regulations as any other handgun.
I have owned both cap-and-ball and flintlock and can tell you that, if you have not tried them, you are missing the biggest giggles in shooting.
Oops, didn't see that when I replied.
My all time favourite thing about these internets is people who don't know #### about a subject but yet feel compelled to post complete crap they dragged out of their ass.
Blackpowder is certainly available. Blackpowder and smokeless powder are not even close to being the same thing.
I have a .36 1851,.36 1858 and a.44 1860. I can tell you that these guns are more fun than I guy should be allowed to have.
You can still buy real black powder as said above at the places listed. Just bought some at the last gun show.
The key to these guns is they must be cleaned right after they are used or the rust bad. When I bought my first one I didn't do that and when I pulled back the hammer the next time the springs broke and had to be replaced.
Are the other substitutes the same way?
My wife loves when I come home smelling like rotten eggs and filthy dirty
You can still buy real black powder as said above at the places listed. Just bought some at the last gun show.
The key to these guns is they must be cleaned right after they are used or the rust bad. When I bought my first one I didn't do that and when I pulled back the hammer the next time the springs broke and had to be replaced.
Are the other substitutes the same way?
My wife loves when I come home smelling like rotten eggs and filthy dirty
