Tell me about my mauser? (pics)
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Mauser K98, Russian captured and refurbed. Someone has cleaned off the Russian shellac and sanded/refinished the stock. The reciever was made at Mauser Oberndorf due to the byf code. Any digits or letters under the byf on the reciever? That will tell you when the reciever was made.
I was the one who refinished the stock the stock.
and beside the "byf" it has a 135 stamp
and it also has the number 26 on the sights, the part that slides to adjust the distance (if that tells you anything else)
could you also give me a estimate of the price?
and beside the "byf" it has a 135 stamp
and it also has the number 26 on the sights, the part that slides to adjust the distance (if that tells you anything else)
could you also give me a estimate of the price?
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If it's the orignal matching parts, you should find the Waffenamt eagle stamped with the same 77 on the right side of the receiver (there might be more than one unit, too) beside susually is a proof mark.
Crossed rifles (often looks like an "X") means arsenal refurbish by the Russians. Usually found on the left side of the receiver ring.
Crossed rifles (often looks like an "X") means arsenal refurbish by the Russians. Usually found on the left side of the receiver ring.
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A normal RC sells for $375 +tax +ship from suppliers.
CGN Russian captures, about that, +/-$25 for comparable copies.
Sanding and refinishing it will have hurt its value though, sorry to say. I'm not a mauser expert, but if I were looking for a shooter I'd pay $320-$340? The stock would be the detractor here for me. That's personal though.. markings can make a huge difference on these guns.
CGN Russian captures, about that, +/-$25 for comparable copies.
Sanding and refinishing it will have hurt its value though, sorry to say. I'm not a mauser expert, but if I were looking for a shooter I'd pay $320-$340? The stock would be the detractor here for me. That's personal though.. markings can make a huge difference on these guns.
Where'd you come up with that?
I'm not sure it's a Russian refurb, since the Russians wouldn't have stamped those corresponding numbers on the bolt and floorplate.
They would have electropencilled the metal parts instead. It almost looks like a Russian refurb that bubba tried to renumber.
The floorplate looks like it has been scrubbed of original numbers before being restamped, but the bolt almost looks like it's still bearing the original number, however I'd need better pics of the serials to confirm that.
The eagle 77 means that the floorplate was made at the Radom plant in occupied Poland. it has nothing to do with what unit the rifle was issued to.
As for the stock, looks better without the stain in my opinion. I'd just rub a little Howards Feed 'n' Wax into it so its not so dry. Being a '44 vintage it probably didn't see heavy use. I bet it'll make a great shooter.
As for price, it's difficult to judge until we determine what sort of refurb it is. If it were an untouched Russian refurb, they're going for $375 at Canadian retailers. The value of yours will depend greatly on whether or not someone dicked with it to put those numbers on the floorplate. If you want a better idea, and you have a camera on hand, post some better pics of the whole blt, including the serial number on the handle, the cocking knob, safety wing. Also, the barrel band and triggerguard if there are serials. Finally, the whole receiver (serials on side of receiver and barrel), and the numbers on the rear sight.
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Coyote Ugly
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Ouch, I couldn't tell from the pics.
You'll definatly make quite a few people cringe by doing that. Removing the Russian shellack is one thing, but re-staining it and especially sanding it will definatly hurt the value.
On an all original rifle you'd be cutting the price in half, luckily with a Russian Capture you're only sellign for shooter value anyway.
You'll definatly make quite a few people cringe by doing that. Removing the Russian shellack is one thing, but re-staining it and especially sanding it will definatly hurt the value.
On an all original rifle you'd be cutting the price in half, luckily with a Russian Capture you're only sellign for shooter value anyway.
Here's a couple of good Mauser sites worth checking out:
http://k98kpage.yuku.com/forum/view/id/1
http://mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/kodyen.html
Ton's o' good info there.
http://k98kpage.yuku.com/forum/view/id/1
http://mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/kodyen.html
Ton's o' good info there.
Yes, it is, but this rifle was made from a Mauser captured in Norway. I bought it from the first owner, and he was the one who supplied the rifle to S&L. S&L always used pre-1939 receivers to build their target and police rifles.
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This is incorrect. The waffen numbers on the rifle are the inspection team number, no relation to combat units. The teams were based at the factories and proofed everything that went through the factory. The manufacturer would have no idea what combat unit was getting the rifle, this would be decided at the depot armoury level dependent probably on supply and demand, long after the rifle was completed.
Your Mauser sporter has the early Weimar eagles so it probably was a prewar Sauer and Sohn reciever before conversion. Waffenampt team 214 was at Sauer and Sohn prewar.
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