tell me about Sako rifles

I’ve owned 2 85’s. A short action grizzly that I should have never sold an a stainless synthetic wsm which had the ejection problem, the struggle is real.
 
My AV 375 doesn’t reliably eject casings with a low mounted Leupold 30mm scope. Mounted low, with the turret in the middle of the ejection port on most long action sakos is a recipe for failure.
 
My L61R in 375 carried a Leupold M8 3X for years. Mounted low in the old SAKO rings, never had a moments problem, nor heard of any ejection problems using SAKO rifles until about ten years or so ago.

Wonder if it was the 30mm tube that might have been the problem?

Ted
 
Yes the 30mm tube and the big turret of the VX6 is part of the issue. I turned the scope 90 deg left and ejection works as it should. Looks funny though.
 
bearkilr said:
A performance "gain" with a shorter barrel? :confused:
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Yes, for example, you have a 30-06 with an 18" barrel. Are you really going to tell me that there is no performance gain in going to a 300win mag even if you stick with the same 18" barrel length?
The larger case of the magnum is going to provide a performance gain over the std caliber even with the same short barrel length
 
Brian46 said:
Yes, for example, you have a 30-06 with an 18" barrel. Are you really going to tell me that there is no performance gain in going to a 300win mag even if you stick with the same 18" barrel length?
The larger case of the magnum is going to provide a performance gain over the std caliber even with the same short barrel length
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OK, just a misunderstanding on your original post. It read as gaining performance by shortening the barrel.
It comes down to volume of a cylinder. Larger bores don't suffer as much from short barrels as their counterpart, assuming equal amounts of powder are to be burned.
 
Buckmastr said:
The small AI actions are the best that Sako made.
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SHHHHH!!!!!!!


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The only fault I have with the A1-A3 series actions is that they should have made one smaller than the A1!

I figure about 1 more step down in size and they would have made almost the perfect gopher/walking varmint action for Hornet or other shorter cartridges (Fireballs, 5.7FN, etc.).
Yeah, I know those were not around at the time they were making them, but a fella can dream!

I got to play around with a friend's Sako made Browning, and it left nothing on the table as far as old school pre-wars craftsmanship and effort going in to it. You sorta gotta feel the difference, rather than see it!

Smooth like glass.

The Tikka's I handled felt like they were put together out of spare parts and lubed with rocks, by comparison.
 
Why not? said:
My L61R in 375 carried a Leupold M8 3X for years. Mounted low in the old SAKO rings, never had a moments problem, nor heard of any ejection problems using SAKO rifles until about ten years or so ago.

Wonder if it was the 30mm tube that might have been the problem?

Ted
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I find it funny that some guys think the Sako mounting system is somehow inferior or goofy when, truth be told, it's probably one of the stronger systems out there.
 
blargon said:
I have 4 Sako 75's. 3 have Mcmillan stocks and 2 have aftermarket barrels (not because they wouldnt shoot, just wanted different options). I love the actions and the fit of the stock profile. Have had a couple 85's, but they dont feel the same to me. I wouldn't pay the current prices for any of them. The older ones are great rifles, but I prefer quality synthetics over wood.
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I totally agree with blargon. The stock profile and fit/finish of the 75s is great..fits me perfectly. I do not like the m85's design myself, and the magazine release method is a pain...I have never lost a m75 magazine from dropping out of the rifle. Ever since Beretta USA bought Sako, IMO product quality / craftsmanship has went down.

I just got back from our annual moose hunting trip. My Sako m75ss 300WM been with me since new for 23 years of the 29 years of camp. Its the only rifle I pack for moose camp. It was my first new rifle in the Sako m75 and I never looked back.

I currently have six m75's. Four in the SS models (22-250 / 243 / 270WSM in SM action / 300WM) and two Greywolf rifles (all non Key-Concept bolts) - one of the Greywolf rifles has an aftermarket barrel as a 338-06ai. Possibly looking at another m75 as I have a new factory 25-06 barrel that was on my 338-06ai Greywolf - to maybe buy a 30-06 and put the 25-06 barrel on for a rifle for one of my boys so they can each have a Sako m75 rifle to shoot as teenagers and not fight over the 243.

I would like to do another m75 with a MacMillan stock and a #2 PacNor Supermatch grade barrel finished to 22-24" as a 338-06 for 180gr AB's or 185gr TTSXs for a nice lightweight rifle.

Very tempted to buy and try out the new Sako S-20 in a 6.5C ... Would like to see and handle a S20 to see how it fits and feels in my hands.
 
BigUglyMan said:
I find it funny that some guys think the Sako mounting system is somehow inferior or goofy when, truth be told, it's probably one of the stronger systems out there.
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I don't agree and here is why .The dove tails tapper allows for windage changes as it moves up and down the dovetail ,simple trigonometry.The optilock is an adaptation to circumvent the windage issue caused by larger heavy scopes wanting to move up the dovetail under inertia .Hence the large monolithic block of steel with a stop to prevent movement.Its an adaptation to the problematic tapper .The old rings that used to mount right on the dove tail had windage adjustment to compensate but they were ugly and bulkey too.If the dovetail was just straight with an abutment there would be no windage issues.The tapper offers no merits over a straight dovetail only problems .
 
BigUglyMan said:
I find it funny that some guys think the Sako mounting system is somehow inferior or goofy when, truth be told, it's probably one of the stronger systems out there.
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I agree. These “problems” come from either poor quality mounts or poor mounting - like every other rifle in existence.
 
The old Sako rings were bulky and ugly and if one did not know how to adjust them, the small nuts got screwed up real easy...

The new Sako rings are bulky and heavy and ugly.

When I had Sako rifles I always preferred Leupold/Sako rings, very compact and clean looking... and I never had a problem with them.
 
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