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I have a new T/C Omega Laminate/stainless en route. I have never owned or shot a muzzleloader before. I purchased the T/C superglide sabots in 250 gr. My question is what do you find to be the best primers & pellets to use to minimize clean-up & fouling? Any tips for first time muzzleloader operator?
or even better if you own a Omega tell me what your best load is.
Thanks
 
First, dont bother with Pellets. Measuring loose powder isnt a big deal and you will shoot tighter groups and get a bit more velocity with loose powder. I would also suggest you buy Blackhorn 209 powder if you can find it. It is super easy to use, and you dont have to clean as often as with other powders(I tested it last fall and shot 63 shots over the season without running a patch down it..no other powder is close). The second best choice is 777. It is good, but it tends to build up a "crud ring" above the powder charge that will mandate running a patch down every 2-3 shots.
Omegas tend to like bullets 200-250 grns. start with a 100 grn charge and see how it shoots.
 
I have also had experience the crud ring with my T/C Omega when using 777. After three shots , that’s it.... time to clean again. This is also my first year using my Omega. I’m hoping to try some Blackhorn this year...
 
sms0000 said:
I looked up the Blackhorn 209 powder and it seems pretty darn good.....I'll give it a try. Not many muzzleloader hunters here?
Thanks
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There are quite a few muzzleloader hunters here on CGN...but most of the time we post in the "Blackpowder and Antiques" or the "Hunting" sections of the forum. :)
 
I have a t/c black diamond and it works quite well. Ive been using hornady 250gn sst-ml's with 90 gr 777.50 cal sabot with .45 cal bullet.
 
350tracker said:
I have also had experience the crud ring with my T/C Omega when using 777. After three shots , that’s it.... time to clean again. This is also my first year using my Omega. I’m hoping to try some Blackhorn this year...
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Run a spit patch down the bore between shots...slowly increasing the length of each stroke until you hit the breech-plug. Scrubbing a bit of the crud at a time.

Don't just shove the patch right to the plug and then try to pull it out...you will not be able to...I learned the hard way. :redface:
 
beefman said:
Run a spit patch down the bore between shots...slowly increasing the length of each stroke until you hit the breech-plug. Scrubbing a bit of the crud at a time.

Don't just shove the patch right to the plug and then try to pull it out...you will not be able to...I learned the hard way. :redface:
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Ok.. Now what’s a spit patch ? I’m new to this sport. Is that a dry or wet patch. I would imagine wet , but with what ? Thanks for the tips...
 
Nothing complicated about it...just like it sounds.

Take a patch and spit on it, run it up and down the bore (using a jag, of course). Then use the reverse side of the patch to dry the bore.

This is for at the range of course....and not in a hunting situation. ;)
 
I have a cheapo Traditions Tracker 209. I use the 777 pellets and have not had a problem. I run a spit patch or a damp patch from my waterbottle down the bore after every shot at the range just because I have the time.

Hunting, I have never needed a second shot to date **knocks on wood** but if I did I would have no worries about running a new load down the barrel without cleaning.

I use a 250 Hornady SST with the sabots that hold the pellets in place. Winchester 209 primers.
 
I shoot a Stainless TC Encore with aftermarket Pro-unter syn stocks. I use Win.primers and shoot 250gr Flex-tip SST's with Harvester Crush-Rib sabots in front of 120grs (volume) 777. When 777 is gone I'm switching to Pyrodex Select powder for all my muzzleloaders. My Encore wears a Nikon Omega 3-9x40. Enjoy your new stinky stick when it arrives.
You'll also have better luck asking these questions in the Blackpowder and Antiques forum. Welcome to the muzzloader club!
 
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and pyrodex.
 
I started muzzleloading with .45 cal round-balls, and ended up shooting smokeless in a couple Savages. The decades and guns in between weren't completely wasted, but sometimes it feels like it.
 
Started with a Kentucky style 45 cal round balls many years ago. Several guns later i shoot a savage with smokeless as well. The improvement on these guns has been unbelievable. Its had to see how much better they will get but who knows.

Maybe there will be 1000M tacticool muzzle loaders soon:D
 
I'm shooting smokeless in a Savage 10MLII. Pleased to be rid of issues relating to cleaning the bore between shots and before putting the gun away for the night. I've heard some disparaging comments about problems with vent liners on these guns, but considering the cost of them around $3.00 a piece, swapping in a new one before a hunt seems like cheap insurance. And nothing I've ever done to my rifle, replacing the vent liner, breach plug, removing it from the stock and putting it back on, has ever changed zero. Not even switching to a different bullet and sabot at 100 yards (not unless 1 moa is a big issue). If you like consistency and low maintenance, the Savage smokeless rifle is for you. Only downside I can see is that it is long and heavy compared to some other rifles.
 
casterpollox said:
I have a cheapo Traditions Tracker 209. I use the 777 pellets and have not had a problem. I run a spit patch or a damp patch from my waterbottle down the bore after every shot at the range just because I have the time.

Hunting, I have never needed a second shot to date **knocks on wood** but if I did I would have no worries about running a new load down the barrel without cleaning.

I use a 250 Hornady SST with the sabots that hold the pellets in place. Winchester 209 primers.
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That's what I have. It's a light and beautifully balanced inline and I like mine quite a bit. Never use pellets though and have always run Pyrodex, but have tried the Triple Seven powder and like it too. The 209 shotgun primers haven't given me a hang fire yet and I have only used Winchester's so far. It's a great inexpensive set up.
 
I have a new TC Triumph with weathershield .it shoots very well with 100gr 777 loose powder and a 240gr 40/50 PR sabot.my only complaint is i find the length of pull to be a bit long.I will be removing the recoil pad a installing a butt plate on the stock.
 
This is what I use and find best.


Encore endeavor 50cal
EGW scope mount
nikon Omega 3-9x40 Matte BDC-250
weaver grand slam rings x4
3 triple 7 magnum pellets (don’t use 3 unless you have a magnum muzzleloader)
And barnes Spit-Fire TMZ .451 cal 100 % copper construction

all this works real nice. i blew the head off a deer at 100 yards with it lol.. last week..

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