Tenifer, Glock, and “Toughness” - One season’s guiding & bushpiloting on a G40
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wayupnorth
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so much hate in here, such a angry place.
i do believe he mentioned when he gets back to where his gun is in a couple weeks he will take some pics.
i do believe he mentioned when he gets back to where his gun is in a couple weeks he will take some pics.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Makes for a laugh which is welcome, run into it a lot, an interweb forum is light duty- try working amongst pilots and !
I can provide nhunter the pic he’s hanging on the edge of his keyboard for shortly, but am curious about giving it a little longer to see what conspiracy theories can be spun from it with time and imagination. I like the H&K agent suggestion right now. In principle I like revolvers a lot, I just don’t like the high bore axis and heavy trigger pulls double action, and no interest in obscure solutions like the rhino personally.
It’s clear my experiences with a product he clearly cares about have offended him, I have little sympathy unfortunately. nhunter can wait and clearly works close to civilization and instant gratification.
Makes for a laugh which is welcome, run into it a lot, an interweb forum is light duty- try working amongst pilots and !
In principle I like revolvers a lot, I just don’t like the high bore axis and heavy trigger pulls double action, and no interest in obscure solutions like the rhino personally.
It’s clear my experiences with a product he clearly cares about have offended him, I have little sympathy unfortunately. nhunter can wait and clearly works close to civilization and instant gratification.
Again here we go...with members getting aggressive when their posts are called into question. No surprise there.
Listen ardent - you have garnered the envy of many for what you do and where you do it. To each their own. I also live in the bush, but no where near as North as you do. Congrats for making an enjoyable life there. Please continue safely always!
I do not comment on your posts as a form of entertainment as you allude to, but rather because you tend to make comments sound as though they are facts based on your experience with a particular piece of equipment, and for this thread, a pistol and a shotgun.
You thought it through and titled and posted a thread on this forum focused on condemning the tenifer finish of a firearm, a finish which is reputed to be extremely durable. You posted a picture showing rust on parts attached to the pistol. When requested to show the actual slide (part made by pistol maker) you excused your inability to do so because you are away or it is low on your priority list or whatever excuse you wish to write. Bottom line is that we have not seen any actual rust on said pistol.
Further down the line and still on this thread - you post a picture of you walking in the rain on a large cow patty carrying a shotgun of some make in your hand and guess what? you condemn the shotgun for dying within one season. No further detail, no further pictures to support your claim of 'dying', rust, or malfunction or failure. Did you rinse said shotgun in mud and swamp water as well??
Listen if you are looking for a place to complain about your misuse/exposure and lack of basic firearm maintenance, and subsequent consequences of lack of maintenance = then carry on.
Nuff said...
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Ardent
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You’re dead right I only have excuses about where my employer, H&K, requires me to be. Make certain you Enjoy life! 
That’s the bit of your latest posts I genuinely appreciate, and sound advice.
That’s the bit of your latest posts I genuinely appreciate, and sound advice.Listen - its all fun! I know you have a sense of humor, we all need to.You’re dead right I only have excuses about where my employer, H&K, requires me to be. Make certain you Enjoy life!
Thanks for your candid and kind replies..
...and look after your equipment out there...
Exactly, it sort of reads as an experiment on how much abuse a gun can handle in an extreme environment.
It would be interesting to do another test next year with a new gun in the belt in a somewhat greasy semi protected cosmolinish exterior state and zero maintenance until it's fired. The internal springs and bits could be sprayed with a tool table sealing lubricant or some other light storage coating and as long as the gun is not fired it should be pretty protected from salty mist in theory..... We need more experiments run. This is just a chapter 1 with the conclusion that fresh water dips with WD-40 blow dry is not reliable.
Heck another experiment would be to just take it out the box, sight it in with your load basic oiling and then do nothing.
Time to give a Walther POQ M2 a try. Unfortunately the Navy version is only in 9. But the regular is also tennifer SS coated and in .40 along with .45.
Next down is the FN fns 40 SS. Similar to the S&W listed below but higher quality and better trigger. There was a blow out on these in .40 a few years ago in the $350 range I seem to recall. Hard to find at that price or even double. Worth considering if there is a big sale.
Going to likely receive some flaming but... S&W SD VE series in .40 . Extremely cost effective and SS slide along with SS barrel. Trigger could use the Apex kit. It’s looked down on but I actually like it. Trigger is the only negative. Wait for a sale. Probably your best bet if you insist on wd40. I personally think these are a hell of a deal but... lower features and less “tactical”. With some of the sales you can find these for around $300 ish.
Next down is the FN fns 40 SS. Similar to the S&W listed below but higher quality and better trigger. There was a blow out on these in .40 a few years ago in the $350 range I seem to recall. Hard to find at that price or even double. Worth considering if there is a big sale.
Going to likely receive some flaming but... S&W SD VE series in .40 . Extremely cost effective and SS slide along with SS barrel. Trigger could use the Apex kit. It’s looked down on but I actually like it. Trigger is the only negative. Wait for a sale. Probably your best bet if you insist on wd40. I personally think these are a hell of a deal but... lower features and less “tactical”. With some of the sales you can find these for around $300 ish.
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He definitely takes the internet too seriously.
10mm and .357 Mag are the bare minimum approved chamberings, has to be a hot 200gr or up loading.
That’s unfortunate as it leaves you with few options in semi auto. I was wondering why you went with 10mm as I thought the .40 S&W pretty much made 10mm a history note. Makes sense though for 200 grain.
Ardent
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Meh I wouldn’t feel comfortable below 10mm honestly anyhow even if it was permitted, big difference between it and .40. Yea principal concern is Grizzlies, I carry 200grs at 1300fps range generally, 700ft-lbs is considered the de facto minimum if you look at approved chamberings. Concern is penetration you want many feet worth on soft tissue due to the size.
Having seen plenty of grizzlies when I was growing up in Northern BC I chose a Ruger Toklat as my bear gun for my frequent Alaska vacations. I load the 325 grain Barnes Buster bullet at 1450fps. People comment on how brutal the .454 is but I honestly don't understand what the big deal is. I find the blast more draining than the recoil. As much as I love the 10mm I consider it inadequate for an animal of that size. Just my opinion of course...
Ardent
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Only question is can you make 6 hits in 5 seconds with a .454 at 25, 20, 15, 7, and 3 metres including the draw as that’s the qualification shoot. The other issue for me is the weight, you may be good with it, I loved the idea of the 5” 629 until I put it on my hip. If doing that for months and backpack hunting the early season up in the alpine for ten days at a time, that chunk of weight and the size gets old fast. We spend $25 on a titanium spork to save grams the nearly 2lbs between the Glock and a .454 DA gets eyed with a cocked brow.
For those that can carry it and shoot that fast with a .44 Mag and up, I solute you, personally I like the Glock long as it will run without a hiccup. Slim, trim, and above all light. A handgun on grizzly is pretty well solely about accurate placement and quickly, with the penetration required. I personally can’t rapidly snap shoot and repeat faster than once a second with a .44 Mag or .454 like I do a Glock 10mm, but that’s my own personal limitation and doesn’t apply to all.
For those that can carry it and shoot that fast with a .44 Mag and up, I solute you, personally I like the Glock long as it will run without a hiccup. Slim, trim, and above all light. A handgun on grizzly is pretty well solely about accurate placement and quickly, with the penetration required. I personally can’t rapidly snap shoot and repeat faster than once a second with a .44 Mag or .454 like I do a Glock 10mm, but that’s my own personal limitation and doesn’t apply to all.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Here’s the light struck round from the ATC shoot, the examiner asked to try it again after the shoot and it fired normally the second time and with a proper firing pin indent the second attempt.
I have never timed myself honestly but I am pretty good with it and improving all the time. It would go faster if those Barnes bullets weren't over a dollar each! The 25 and 20m shots that quickly may be beyond my current skill level, depends how big the target is. I do love the 10mm and the G40 is probably my favorite semi-auto. If I were carrying for work like you I could certainly see myself making the same choice. I have the benefit of using whatever ammo I like and a very nice chest holster to boot so I have more options than yourself. It's sad they have to basically micro-manage your choice in protection.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I feel fortunate the best fit for my hand and a quite lightweight option is approved, and in the absence of the present ATC requirements would probably still carry a Glock 10mm. I’m not big on the other 10mms on the market, most are heavy, have to be carried cocked and locked like the Delta, or have a heavy first pull DA like the SIG. Glock tickles my fancy in every way except keeping it running in salt, constant moisture, and sand but suspect most autos will suffer similarly. The SIG or in particlar S&W 1006 may fare better on account of hammer firing / higher spring forces, a 1006 is probably my next gun if the Glock hiccups again and a thanks to this thread for that.
I owned a 1006 with adjustable sights years ago. I sold it because I needed money at one point, which is disappointing considering the cost of one these days. They are decent guns but the DA is long and sort of crappy, I also remember it being pretty heavy. It was reliable and accurate though.
