Tenifer, Glock, and “Toughness” - One season’s guiding & bushpiloting on a G40

Canuck44 said:
One thing for sure that Gen 4 slide is not Tenifer coated. Tenifer doesn't rust. I read that on the internet. I also read where Glock quit using Tenifer with the Gen 3's. The Gen 5 iteration is a better design from what I have read. Better slide construction and a better trigger group. Same grip angle that keeps me shooting the PPQ, SIG and M&P.

Angus just for fun I would send some pics to Glock and ask what they think. Hell they might send you a replacement gun.

Take Care

Bob
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Worth doing on Glock, not after anything but would like to hear what they say. Most answers I can imagine will include “We’d like to see the pistol”.
 
Ardent said:
nhunter’s long awaited slide pic,

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Yikes. I was misinformed. I thought you had a Gen 3 with a tenifer finish....thought I read Tenifer some where....OH YEA the title of your thread!!

That is not a tenifer finish IMHO......thanks for posting for sure!
My 10MM tenifier looks like this!
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Some people might consider this a thread about Glocks, but I don't; I consider this to be a thread about how WD-40 plus guns equals fail.

I know that WD-40 is cheap, and widely available. Why not use it on guns? I did it too, for a while, despite an uncle's admonition that I should not. (He knew. I didn't.)

And I learned the hard way, like you, Ardent (I guess). I just needed to find it out myself.
 
The finish on this one looked exactly like “A” the top one when new, rougher textured, darker. Dug this pic up on my phone from when it was new last spring, it’s graying with carry use. It’s not like the lower ported one, whether that’s a good thing or bad thing is for the interweb to decide.

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Ardent said:
Here’s the light struck round from the ATC shoot, the examiner asked to try it again after the shoot and it fired normally the second time and with a proper firing pin indent the second attempt.

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That's what they look like when the gun isn't fully in battery. In my experience, anyway.
 
Here is what a Gen 4 real Tenifer finish looks like.
Yours is not quite there as you can plainly see - looking at the print letters / surface texture on your slide vs. this one. No question about it - yours does NOT have a tenifer finish. The Gen 4 and later surfacing are not known to be as durable as the True tenifer finishes...cheers and thanks for your communications...but perhaps correct the title to this thread....
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With flash glare up close, that’s an awful lot like what it would have looked like new. I don’t have a vested interest in whether it’s “tenifer” or whatever they’re doing now, the finish is the smallest concern and cosmetic, the function and light strike is the concern. As for you figuring it was a gen 3, there’s no such thing as a gen 3 G40. ;)

Gatehouse said:
That's what they look like when the gun isn't fully in battery. In my experience, anyway.
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She’s getting a new mainspring for sure before going afield again.
 
Well if it was tenifer... and you think it was when new (which according to you was a season ago...) and no - it doesn't rub or wear off evenly all over the slide (yours shows zero sign of the frying pan finish anywhere..I've posted photos of actual tenifer finishes..), and any properly focused photograph, flash or not would show the frying pan finish - and yours appears to be the less resistant matt/flat metal finish cause if it was true tenifer then.......

"The matte black, non-glare, Tenifer metal finish used on Glock slides and barrels is very hard (64 ROC) and extremely rust and abrasion resistant, more so than stainless steel. Tenifer is a ferric nitrocarburizing process that enhances the fatigue properties, scuffing resistance and corrosion resistance of the metal surface. Glock's Tenifer finish is said to be 85% more corrosion resistant than a hard chrome finish and 99.9% salt water corrosion resistant"

The pistol industry and professionals know better than the both of us, I'd wager..anyhow - carry on and take care...
 
NHunter said:
Well if it was tenifer... and you think it was when new (which according to you was a season ago...) and no - it doesn't rub or wear off evenly all over the slide (yours shows zero sign of the frying pan finish anywhere..I've posted photos of actual tenifer finishes..), and any properly focused photograph, flash or not would show the frying pan finish - and yours appears to be the less resistant matt/flat metal finish cause if it was true tenifer then.......

"The matte black, non-glare, Tenifer metal finish used on Glock slides and barrels is very hard (64 ROC) and extremely rust and abrasion resistant, more so than stainless steel. Tenifer is a ferric nitrocarburizing process that enhances the fatigue properties, scuffing resistance and corrosion resistance of the metal surface. Glock's Tenifer finish is said to be 85% more corrosion resistant than a hard chrome finish and 99.9% salt water corrosion resistant"

The pistol industry and professionals know better than the both of us, I'd wager..anyhow - carry on and take care...
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I'll take the reality in the field, thanks
 
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5-10 minutes
CLP
A rag
Small cleaning kit with nylon brushes.

Thats all you need to keep your pistol up and running. WD40 is for creaky doors.
 
NHunter said:
I would too...but I doubt we are seeing reality...
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Right. I’ll agree with you, for 99.9% of the pistols used out there this isn’t reality. For mine, it is, mainly because I’m paid by H&K to make a Glock fail. You’re clearly very attached to Glock and identify with the brand somehow an awful lot, I like them but it’s Ford / Chevy in my world and a work tool.
 
The issue at hand for some is what you consider to be "babying" a work gun or simple tool as you suggest. I have lots of tools that I use and don't maintain much such as hammers and impact drivers.... But I don't have to jump through hoops to use them or carry them in the bush with a weight penalty. They are also not life saving equipment for my self, co workers or clients.

I think most people agree that your environment and carry constraints are less then ideal and most would also agree that creek dips and WD-40 flushes didn't achieve the goal of basic maintenance of your defensive tool.

It could be the initial suggestion that you will have to baby your glock to get it to not rust and be reliable that is debatable and causing some friction....

At the very least what "baby" means to everyone as far as basic maintenance for a self defense tool at work.

Its quite possible that your maintenance regime contributed to the failure.... To suggest it will need to be babied presupposes that your maintenance regime was reasonable given the environment and role of the gun.

I'm not surprised your original story brought out some critical views the way it was authored..... it did have a certain style that could make some people jealous or envious or just plain critical of your maintenance regime.
 
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Reasonable discussion, however it has to be viewed in direct comparison to the S&W large frame it works alongside with a coworker that gets identical treatment and use. The Smith runs flawlessly and looks none the worse for wear with fresh water flushes WD hosings, aside from holster rash from sandy holsters. That gun will take the use and abuse and for a decade, my clearly Glock won’t.
 
Ardent said:
Reasonable discussion, however it has to be viewed in direct comparison to the S&W large frame it works alongside with a coworker that gets identical treatment and use. The Smith runs flawlessly and looks none the worse for wear with fresh water flushes WD hosings, aside from holster rash from sandy holsters. That gun will take the use and abuse and for a decade, my clearly Glock won’t.
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Exactly, your glock needs more then wd-40 and a dip in the creek..... it was a good test for sure and thankfully the failure was on the range.


Imagine never changing a timing belt and then complaining when it failed that your friends car with a different motor and timing chain never needed to be babied..... :)

Fact is you prefer the glock, now the job at hand is to figure out how to make it last more then a few months.
 
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