test driving the ICRW built LRB M14SA Super Scout

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I'm not gonna say who the lucky gun nut is, who this fine rifle belongs too, but here she is, fresh off my bench and on film for it's virgin run against the 225 yard gong at POCO range, B.C.
her owner can post the rest of the pics i emailed and a run down on the full load of M14 crack that went into this beauty. Note the brand spankin new condition usgi fiberglass furniture ;)
enjoy ;)
BTW..... she hit the 8" plate (gong), 8 out of 10 shots...... ;) with norinco 147fmj and a 10 to 15 km crosswind down range
 
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I thought your bench was closed...? Where did the LRB come from? Questar? Built with all GI parts?

(nice AIA mag)

my bench was closed april 15th to NEW bookings.
I am wrapping up a dozen or so builds for various clients , this LRB being one of them. Seen as there a VERY VERY few of these rifles in Canada, I thought i would share the video seen as I had to test fire her anyways.
The rifle is owned by a fellow gun nut and he can elaborate on this and other rifles I've recently built from the ground up for him if he chooses to share the info ..... but nothing short of the best of the best went into this rifle, from the bare receiver up, each and every part installed by yours truly ;)
 
Very sweet! I gotta get me some of those AIA magazines now... or else you know what is gonna happen! :D

yup the AIA mags are pretty sweet, especially for those competing with thier m14 type rifles as it let's you keep up with the AR boys on mag changes. But so hard ....... to...... find....... :(

while i'm in the video posting mood...... here is another video of another rifle we tested today with excellent success. It's what I call an accurized "squad rifle". 18.75" , Dlask m14 Bull Brake, my Ultimate Front Sight mod, and the standard accurizing, guide rod ect.
 
Of course, you can always buy an AIA rifle and a 5 round mag, spin the rifle with the 5 rounder and keep the two 10 rounders. A bit of an expensive way to get the mags, but... (of course you could KEEP the AIA?)
 
Mags are legal because mag laws depend on what firearm the mag is manufactured for. Due to the AIA ones being made for a .308 bolt action 10 rounds is okay... they just happen to work in m14's as an added bonus.
 
I was reading over on TFL that the LRB and 7.62mm firearms receivers are machined differently that GI drawings for the bolt contact surface inside the heel.

There was concern that on some (maybe all?) 7.62mm firearms receivers, the contact area was cut with a ball-nosed end-mill instead of using a specialized 90 degree milling adaptor to get a perfectly round flat surface for the bolt to stop against.

If you look inside a Chinese receiver heel, they are machined exactly like a GI, assuming the receiver is one that's in spec. There is a end-mill plunge-cut done at 90 degress so you end up with a flat circle at the back of the heel.

The guys on TFL were saying if you use a 7.62mm firearms receiver, you might need to use a buffer at the operating spring guide to prevent hte bolt from impacting the receiver heel as the radius was not tight enough and you could damage the back of the bolt (maybe).

the LRB receiver is supposedly also cut with a ball cutter but *may* be better toleranced.

Did you have a chance to check if there was even and flat bolt engagement against the back of the LRB receiver? Just curious as I'm weird like that in wanting to know all the little variances in machining steps from maker to maker - lol.
 
The Doc built this one up for me, he did a write up about some of the differences in another thread.. I'll see if i can find it...
Two of the areas that needed tweeking on mine were the oprod dismount notch needed enlargening, and the "roof" under the receiver in the area where the bolt slides back needed to be polished to prevent binding.
I read that same thread on the TFL and mine definately doesn't ahve the same issue as the 7.62 one shown there.
 
Here's his write up from another thread:

"despite all the fan fare over the high end m14 crack...... the chinese receivers we have here in canada are top notch.
By comparison
I've had the privelege of building 3 LRB receiver's from the ground up, for clients, into complete all usgi rifles(. Then the fellow "unlistedhandle" paid HUGE to import a full LRB rifle that had issues from day one..... he was NOT a happy camper.... at first . NONE of these receiver's / builds were not without thier issues.
for instance, ALL of the receiver's required modification of the oprod take down notch of the receiver. The USGI, M1A and Chinese ones being a rectangular recess, the LRB being rounded, and shorter ..... why i do not know, but i can only assume this was done for gunsmith fitting...... simply not an issue with any chinese receiver i've met

Next, receiver heel "roof" and lug raceways are very tight fit to a usgi bolt. Meticulous polishing , bluing and repolishing was "required" on all 3 receiver up builds..... never seen this with a chinese receiver, USGI bolts just slide right in (other than lug lapping)
One LRB receiver had bumps of unmachined surface... missed by the cnc or the guy inspecting.... again, meticulous stoning and polishing was in order for a bolt to even cycle properly without jamming 1/2 way in the receiver bridge.... very bad...... and again, never seen this on a single chinese receiver

The full build LRB , ordered from and built by LRB, had indexing issues, oprod failed 30 degree tilt test and gas system and flash hider both had noticeable rotational play and gas assembly has 8 or so thou of fore and aft play between gas band and the tightened up assembly..... this could not be fixed with shims, instead, the gas band had to be lapped to the barrels gas band flange.... could have turned it ona lathe a couple thou but i ended up spending a couple hours hand lapping the fricken thing hehehe

so just because it costs a tonne, and is made in the U.S. , doesn't mean it's gonna be all gravy in the end.

I am a BIG fan of the LRB product, regardless of the above comments, and I would expect some degree of fitting on any high end, to milspec part , other than machining left overs in places they shouldn't be hehehehe . BUT I caution those embarking on thier M14 journey, your chinese rifle , despite the glitches and common need to replace a couple parts...... At 500.00 price point...... skip the fancy schmancy , and get yourself a stock norinco or poly. For 1/2 of what the LRB costs you can build a better rifle
for those who are wanting a U.S. made rifle so as to be able to go to matches, Hunts or ranges in the U.S. , with thier M14 type rifle...... you can't take your norinco due to U.S. regulations BUT you can take your M1A, M14SA LRB, and hopefully we can add the 7.62 firearms builds/receivers to the mix as well. The crossing the border thing to go shoot with powmia56 at Custer is HIGH on my list of things to start doing on a regualr basis.... and is THE ONLY reason i am considering a higher price point (than a stock norinco) , U.S. made rifle."
 
And here's a picture of my baby: :D:D:D

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I would hate to be the guy video taping this rifle in action as it looks like the brass was flying right out at him.
Also I don't think I <3 M14 will ever have ejection issues with this puppy.
Sweet Rig!
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Woot Woot!!!!!!!!!

Okay, I gotta talk up Thomas some more. This rifle is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Got 'er out for a quick test after work today:
100 ish meters, irons, 30 km/h cross wind, IVI surplus.

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The thing just feels smooth.

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