Thanks for the help guys :-)

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I figure I must need a longer trigger finger?
I might need to go back to the Browning Hi Power.
Never had this issue until I became a Glockster.
 
Your fingers are fine. Just put more finger on the trigger. You don't need to go all the way to you index finger joint, but it looks like you are barely even getting the pad of your first finger on there. Don't think you need to pull the trigger with the tip of your finger to get a good press.
 
Understood - I think I get it. I normally get the trigger angle right about 75% of the time. Otherwise I wouldn't be winning matches with this pistol. It's the other 25% that is bugging me. I'm not new to pistol shooting however I find it very interesting that the Glock 17 and derivatives are applauded as being the most reliable combat pistols in the world and that the plunger safety trigger system is flawless.

My hands aren't small but they aren't large. 25% failure is not acceptable to me for any pistol system. However I might be the only person this is happening to so...
 
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You have certainly defined the problem...you need to get your finger further into the trigger guard. It's hard to tell from that video but the only way I can make this happen even on a large frame glock is to plant the backstrap in the middle of my palm and try to wrap my fingers around it from there, which is obviously totally wrong.

OTOH I can palm volkwagens so it's possible I just can't replicate a small-hands problem.

At any rate the bottom line is you need more finger on the trigger. The gun is working normally.
 
Yep Thanks M
That's what I figured
I suppose I'll sell this puppy and buy another BHP
Too bad - this is a damn fine pistol
 
Well, you could also just train to press the trigger straight back. I mean a straight-back press is what you want on any gun at all, so one way or another, you need to train your hands to whatever gun you're going to run. I can't use my glock grip on a 226, I need to shift my hands a bit.

It's either that or never switch guns, whichever you prefer.
 
I'm going to play around with the pistol a bit more before I put her up for sale because I really like it. My hands are too small for this pistol - I'm convinced of that now but if I can grasp the pistol differently in a consistent manner to rectify this then I will work on that. It just shoots so much better than almost all of the other pistols I have ever shot before.
 
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I'm going to play around with the pistol a bit more before I put her up for sale because I really like it. My hands are too small for this pistol - I'm convinced of that now but if I can grasp the pistol differently in a consistent manner to rectify this then I will work on that. It just shoots so much better than almost all of the other pistols I have ever shot before.
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Shy of a Coonan or say a 2011 in .45 or maybe .40 no grown man's hands are too small for a pistol. Others have said it: learn to shoot this gun. Or move on but your small hands are not the real problem.
 
Riflechair said:
I'm going to play around with the pistol a bit more before I put her up for sale because I really like it. My hands are too small for this pistol - I'm convinced of that now but if I can grasp the pistol differently in a consistent manner to rectify this then I will work on that. It just shoots so much better than almost all of the other pistols I have ever shot before.
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I have largish hands and a G17 Gen 4. Because the gen 4 comes with backstraps, I put the largest ones on first and although I could reach the safety NP, I could not get a proper purchase on the trigger or the gun, I shot it with the medium (better but not great) and now shoot with no strap and a Hogue rubber. I think the gen 3 has the same dimensions as the gen 4 with the middle strap applied. Therefore, if your hands are slightly smaller than mine you ARE encountering a reach issue IMHO. Find a Gen 4 without a strap on it and take it for a spin around the range. My bet is that it'll fit!
 
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I think the gen 3 has the same dimensions as the gen 4 with the middle strap applied. Therefore, if your hands are slightly smaller than mine you ARE encountering a reach issue IMHO. Find a Gen 4 without a strap on it and take it for a spin around the range. My bet is that it'll fit!
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This. The Gen4 has a 1/8" shorter reach than a Gen 3 etc. without any extra backstraps.
 
An alternative is the S&W M&P handguns. These are basically "glock" in core design, but with small changes that change how they feel in the hand. They are much narrower and your finger is closer to the trigger, and the trigger is set up a bit different...it may be more to your liking.
 
what happens here is ,the rear of the safety plunger rubs the frame where the trigger's pad protrude off the slot in the frame . you could ream the rear of the plunger where it rubs against the frame,so even with a sideways push of the plunger it would disengage easily .

this thing happen sometimes with adjustable triggers if i try to remove all the pre travel of the trigger,if i turn the set screw too much it is what i get : a plunger rubbing against the frame,then a lateral push of trigger isn't enough to disengage the plunger . backing the set screw out a quarter turn releases the plunger completely.

for some reasons it's probably what you get here,so a little ''sanding ''' of the rear of the safety plunger where it protrudes out of the trigger pad will cure that imo.
 
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