I couldn't agree with you more about learning to stalk game. Most Nimrods head for the game fields with their laser sight super mags. and shoot at ranges that should be for military howitzers and not game. They pay no attention to wind direction or just being quiet. Most can't tell 100 yards from 500 yards and when they miss they most likely blame it on anything but themselves. My hat comes off for those "HUNTERS" who use rifles in the 30-30 class and the blackpowder guys who pour their own loads (I haven't warmed up to the inline types with the pellet type powders). These guys have actually learned to hunt,get close and get game. With all the highpower firearms out there on the market it still amazes me that the first smokeless,high velocity cartridge "30 WCF" or 30-30 if you like is still so strong. The 94 winchester may have been discontinued but the cartride is still strong. I always get a kick out of the gun salesguys who get a sour look on their face when you mention a 30-30. It is obvious they have never hunted with one because if they had,they would own one,or two,or three,or four,or....